help parking ticket appeals gone bump

podoman

Parking ticket appeals have ceased trading part way through handling my appeal. I have now received from the pcn issuer their reponse to POPLA?

What happens now, what do I need to do?

Any advice welcome.

hoohoo

Who was the operator? What is their gpeol statement? Did they send a contract or witness statement?

SevenTowers

If parking ticket appeals submitted your appeal to POPLA then you will not need to do anything, if they haven't submitted your appeal then you are going to have to do so yourself. If that is the case we can advise you on constructing a winning appeal.

If you don't know whether or not your appeal was submitted I would advise that you contact POPLA to find out.

You can also apply for a refund through Paypal.

bod1467

What you've received is the PPC evidence pack (to POPLA). Your task now is to look at that pack, then respond to POPLA to rebut the PPC's evidence ... GPEoL calculation etc.

If you tell us which PPC we'll be better-able to advise you.

In the meantime, if you haven't already, you could raise a Paypal claim for the £16 you have paid to PTAS. (Although to be fair, it seems they'd done most of the work already).

Umkomaas

Here's an excellent example of how one poster dealt effectively and comprehensively with a PPC's Evidence Pack. I'm sure this will give you plenty of ideas on how to handle your case.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/67385911#Comment_67385911

And another one to consider.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=67402366&postcount=26

podoman

Hi, thanks for the responses.

I have an e-letter from POPLA telling me my appeal will be heard soon after the 30th Jan.

I also had a long e-letter from CPS(Midlands) full of their rebuttal (?) of my claim.

I have not been asked to comment on the CPS stuff by POPLA, this is what I expected the parking appeals service to deal with, I sent them the CPS email and just received (eventually after several messages) a on line message telling me they has ceased trading.

As I have now passed the deadline to pay it off cheaply (?) I am rather upset as it could now cost me twice the original 'fine' plus I'm also another £16 out of pocket. I shall certainly take it up with Paypal.

On rereading CPS evidence I have noted an error on their report, they describe the place where they issued the 'ticket' as a service road (which it was) to a named hotel, which it definitely is not, later in their evidence they claim it is a car park. There are also some sums of money they claim to have paid for redilvery but no proof such as a receipt. Is this something I can exploit, if so when do I do this and how?

Any advice and help gratefully received.

Thanks.:)

Redx

draft up your rebuttals and add them to your appeal on the popla website ASAP , using your popla ref number (rebut as many points as possible, based on what you have read and the links provided above)

you may be able to email them too, in which case do both

ampersand

podoman - POPLA won't 'hear' your appeal. They'll just read what you and pcm submit.

Let us see this first, for fine-tuning. Don't feel it belongs in the 'too hard' box, which perhaps led you to PTAS in the first place.

You CAN do this, just as most of us have. Get stuck into this over the w/e - you know mse's here 24/7:-)

podoman

Thanks guys, I tried to submit my rebuttal via the upload on the POPLA site but it refused to recognise my verification number so I am going to send it to them by email

hoohoo

Post it here too.

podoman

Here are the main points of my additional evidence, although I think it might now be too late as I can not submit it via the POPLA website as it does not recognise the verification number sent to me.


I have now received by email a copy of the evidence submitted by CPS (Midlands), in it I note some factual errors as well as claims for disbursements of which they provide no proof of having had to make and I feel are spurious claims to bolster their position.

In their evidence they claim that the vehicle in question was parked on a service road that serviced the Jury’s Inn, this is not the case, the road does not service the Jury’s Inn Hotel.

Later on in their evidence they claim the vehicle was in a car park, exactly where are they claiming the vehicle was parked, it cannot have been in 2 locations simultaneously. Signage present in the area all refers to a car park, there is a car park adjacent to the service road, the service road itself is not a car park.

In their estimation (they only provide “ball park figures”) not actual costings and there is no proof of any disbursement they claim to have made.

There has been no need for them to contact the DVLA as their original notice applied to the vehicle was responded to; if they had contacted the DVLA then they would have directed correspondence to the registered keeper by post.

Why is it necessary to charge for looking up a quoted legal case when this case will have been referred to many times in other appeals so they would already be aware of this case.

Redelivery charge, what redelivery charge, they have never mentioned this in previous correspondence nor do they provide any proof any charge has been paid.

I therefore submit that their evidence is deeply flawed in fact and contains several charges as part of their pre-estimate of loss that could well be false in an attempt to increase the weight of their case and as such are not a genuine pre-estimate of loss.