Leaving school - is this true?

duchy

You need to read in context.

The OP was claiming that there were absolutely NO jobs in the area - and also mentioned there is a high elderly population.

If you had read my post properly you would have seen I also said the mother could retrain at college- and the daughter could look at vocational training or an apprenticeship...........There is an obvious co-relation between which industries in the area have jobs available - and the type of training that would be desirable .

Whilst it would be desirable if every person working in the care or welfare industry did so because it was their life's ambition - the reality is that whilst care positions offer such poor pay and inferior working conditions like long hours and sometimes dangerous clients or environments Oxbridge's finest aren't going to be queuing up to enter the caring profession.

Of course many people who do start work in care simply to keep a roof over their family's head and to put food on the table find the job rewarding even if they took it from necessity in the first place.

Not everyone has the luxury of picking and choosing but take the work that is available . There is dignity in working rather than claiming - even if you personally regard burger flipping with such disdain ! I have more respect for the kids who finds a job than the one who thinks they can lounge on benefits until their chosen position comes along - if that is working in a carehome or in MacDonalds - there is no difference. Those who have self respect do all they can to work and take what is available.

Ames wrote: »

I'm not disagreeing with the general focus of the posts. But a couple of people have said 'there's always jobs in care', and that attitude really annoys me. Do we really want people working as carers who are only there because there's no other jobs? Surely it's a profession which should be filled by people who are interested, trained, skilled, and doing it because it's what they want to do, not just because the burger places aren't hiring.

And then there's an outcry when the care home scandals hit.

The_Last_Username

My thanks to those that have posted a genuine attempt at polite response.

It's sad to see though that there are still SO MANY who seem intent upon comments which are so blatantly vitriolic; fortunately I am not as "new" a poster as it may seem & am (sadly) "hardened" to this type of reaction on these forums.
Some of this is from users with THOUSANDS of posts and - worse - these posts have been "thanked" many times.

Very sad and a poor implementation of MSE Forum's guidelines.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/forum-faqs

"Please be nice to all MoneySavers. That’s the forum motto. Remember, the prime aim is to help provide info and resources. If you don’t like someone, their situation, their question or feel they’re intruding on ‘your board’ then please bite the bullet and think of the bigger issue."

Penny-Pincher!!

OP....is there any reason why the dd has taken so long to get through her education? Our DD is just 20 and in her 2nd year at Uni after doing a 2 year level 3 BTEC diploma at college. She works pt and has a student loan and has been awarded a part scholarship.

Really at the daughters age, she should be getting into the workplace and building confidence and earning her own money and learning how SHE can look after and appreciate it. The mother could work which could easily make up the money they're losing from the CTC and CB.

Could the dad get a better paid job? Can they cut back on their bills?

The_Last_Username

I really don't know the answer to your first question Penny-Pincher; sorry.
BTW it seems LO is 10 & not in secondary school yet.
AND ..... as the father is a colleague, I don't see (cerainly short-term) exactly HOW he will get a better-paid job.

burlington6

The_Last_Username wrote: »

My thanks to those that have posted a genuine attempt at polite response.

It's sad to see though that there are still SO MANY who seem intent upon comments which are so blatantly vitriolic; fortunately I am not as "new" a poster as it may seem & am (sadly) "hardened" to this type of reaction on these forums.
Some of this is from users with THOUSANDS of posts and - worse - these posts have been "thanked" many times.

Very sad and a poor implementation of MSE Forum's guidelines.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/forum-faqs

"Please be nice to all MoneySavers. That’s the forum motto. Remember, the prime aim is to help provide info and resources. If you don’t like someone, their situation, their question or feel they’re intruding on ‘your board’ then please bite the bullet and think of the bigger issue."

The truth hurts

FBaby

I don't think you can say that posts were vitriolic. It is more a case of posters sharing their frustration that any one could be expected to show sympathy towards a family who expect to be entitled to children benefits even when children become adults just because they don't want to work.

If you'd written that the wife had started college a couple of years ago to gain further training and since then had applied for jobs every week without success I think responses would have been more sympathetic to her financial worries. However the way you phrased it implied that the system is unfair for expecting her and/her adult child to work to make up the difference lost and that is where most totally disagree with you.

The_Last_Username

burlington6

The truth hurts

Ah I'm pleased you realise that.

Horseygirl123

alwaysskint96 wrote: »

was the old Family credit in the 90s so generous? Cant remember receiving that tbh so dont know

I seem to remember people had to work to receive that, unlike the current child tax credit

No it wasn't. My friend had four kids and her husband worked full time in a low paid job. She worked from 5pm until 11pm five nights a week and I looked after her kids until their father picked them up at 6.30. She didn't receive a penny in income support which is why she had to work so many hours. Like me she just received family allowance.

OhWow

alwaysskint96 wrote: »

was the old Family credit in the 90s so generous?

No, it wasn't.

alwaysskint96 wrote: »

I seem to remember people had to work to receive that, unlike the current child tax credit.

They did.

burlington6

Horseygirl123 wrote: »

No it wasn't. My friend had four kids and her husband worked full time in a low paid job. She worked from 5pm until 11pm five nights a week and I looked after her kids until their father picked them up at 6.30. She didn't receive a penny in income support which is why she had to work so many hours. Like me she just received family allowance.

I think that was said tongue in cheek