Switching off someone else's ignition

Spicy_McHaggis

ilikewatch wrote: »

In the situation described I think the most likely way the driver could "break someones hand" is by slamming it in the door -slamming the door seems a pretty reasonable course of action if a stranger has opened it and is trying to grab your ignition keys.

I fail to see how it would break his hand if they're grabbing at your keys.

wiogs

Since this is not hypothetical why not tell us what happened?

AdrianC

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

But remember the cyclist is nearly dead so too injured to hand it to the police.

"Nearly killed" != "Nearly dead".

If I shoot at your head and miss by an inch, did I nearly kill you? Yes. Are you nearly dead? No.

sinizterguy

I might be worried that someone is trying to steal my car and react suitably (violently) and claim self defence as I was in fear of my life.

Tobster86

wiogs wrote: »

Since this is not hypothetical why not tell us what happened?

I have.

A very serious case of dangerous driving occurred. The cyclist then pursued the offending driver, switched off their ignition, and told them off; and is now facing the dilemma of whether or not they themself will be liable for prosecution if they make a complaint, by their own admission of the events.

Spicy_McHaggis

AdrianC wrote: »

"Nearly killed" != "Nearly dead".

If I shoot at your head and miss by an inch, did I nearly kill you? Yes. Are you nearly dead? No.

No, you nearly shot me.

Without a life threatening injury how can you nearly kill someone?

Tilt

AdrianC wrote: »

"Nearly killed" != "Nearly dead".

If I shoot at your head and miss by an inch, did I nearly kill you? Yes. Are you nearly dead? No.

I reckon you would have to be a pretty poor shot then :whistle:

Spicy_McHaggis

Tobster86 wrote: »

I have.

A very serious case of dangerous driving occurred. The cyclist then pursued the offending driver, switched off their ignition, and told them off; and is now facing the dilemma of whether or not they themself will be liable for prosecution if they make a complaint, by their own admission of the events.

Have you done something unreasonable?

If you haven't why all the questions?

Tobster86

And so it descends into a debate about the definition of 'nearly killed'. I do wonder about MSE forums sometimes!

ilikewatch

Tobster86 wrote: »

I have.

A very serious case of dangerous driving occurred. The cyclist then pursued the offending driver, switched off their ignition, and told them off; and is now facing the dilemma of whether or not they themself will be liable for prosecution if they make a complaint, by their own admission of the events.

I really wouldn't worry about it, the police are highly unlikely to be interested in pursuing anything related to the incident, even if they were, your helmet cam footage is unlikely (in the absence of any independent witnesses) to be suitable evidence to prosecute.