Switching off someone else's ignition

Spicy_McHaggis

straighttalker wrote: »

Yes but the interior of the car should remain someone's private haven?

By your flawed logic, if I walk down the High Street, I am in the public domain so someone can walk up to me, put their hands down my pants and have a fumble?

If they get it out who's in possession of the offensive weapon?





Oh sorry no one under 3" is allowed.

Spicy_McHaggis

fred246 wrote: »

If a crazy gunman was indiscriminately endangering people's lives and someone managed to disarm them they would be seen as a hero. This is what happened in this case. The cyclist should have removed the keys and called the police thereby preventing any more deaths or injuries.

No that's rubbish too.

You're allowed to posess a car.

So is this cyclist on life support and will he make it?


Or are we talking a near miss?

Tobster86

Ok, ok.

The driver is not unfit to drive through drink or drugs; only through their own stupidity, which was unfortunately not determined when they passed their driving test.

And the cyclist's intent when switching off the ignition was a mix of retaliation and ensuring he could deliver said lecture.

Spicy_McHaggis

Tobster86 wrote: »

Ok, ok.

The driver is not unfit to drive through drink or drugs; only through their own stupidity, which was unfortunately not determined when they passed their driving test.

And the cyclist's intent when switching off the ignition was a mix of retaliation and ensuring he could deliver said lecture.

Is this cyclist you?

Tobster86

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Is this cyclist you?

This highly detailed scenario is entirely hypothetical. Honest.

marleyboy

Strider590 wrote: »

By this standard, there can be no trespass, because if the vehicle is in a publicly accessible space, it too becomes public space.

Yet my house is on a public road. What if it was a caravan or a mobile home. Does your analogy make it legal to break into a car, solely because the owner does not lock it up in a garage?

forgotmyname

A call to the police a cyclist just mugged/attempted to car jacked me...

scotsbob

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Flawed logic there.

Is it an offence to buy said knife in asda and carry it home?

For offensive weapon its other than your place of abode, so a chef commits the offence at work?

I don't see how it is flawed logic. You are permitted to carry a knife if you have "good reason."


Carrying a knife, which you had just bought, to your home and carrying a knife to work, would both be considered "good reason."


https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

marleyboy

Tobster86 wrote: »

Ok, ok.

The driver is not unfit to drive through drink or drugs; only through their own stupidity, which was unfortunately not determined when they passed their driving test.

And the cyclist's intent when switching off the ignition was a mix of retaliation and ensuring he could deliver said lecture.

Yes, but we cannot go around in vigilante groups and hang around traffic lights taking it into our own hands to determine who is a good or bad driver by removing their keys can we?

ilikewatch

Ok, I'll have a punt...

I would have thought that the act of opening the car door and confronting the driver would probably be covered by one of several variations of "using threatening, abusive words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress"

The cyclist was almost certainly operating the car without insurance when he interfered with the ignition.

Would the police be interested in either the original incident or the ensuing excitement? - highly unlikely.