Combined Parking Solutions Ltd - County Court Claim Form

esmerobbo

The Deep he has won far more then the Stephen Thomas fiasco. That was pre POFA so a rare occurrence at the time.

I have read your link yes but having been VAT registered its a mine field. Especially when it comes to land and property.

If you want a real headache read this, if only the part on car parking and see if you can make sense of it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-742-land-and-property/vat-notice-742-land-and-property

I don't know if VAT should be charged on this case, only CPS do or their accountants. However I don't see much of a defence in pushing the VAT issue.

They have as far as we know never been tested against a good defence, in fact they have chickened out of the challenge.

However does the OP want to be the one to test it without more then the VAT issue?

The_Deep

The Deep he has won far more then the Stephen Thomas fiasco. That was pre POFA so a rare occurrence at the time.

Indeed, here are some of his wins

Ultimate Rug Company – Wolverhampton County Court
Gill – Middlesbrough County Court
Savatovich – Stoke-On-Trent County Court
Arroyo – Cardiff County Court
Wilson – Worcester County Court
Gapara – Milton Keynes County Court
Steele – Stoke On Trent County Court
Purdy – Southampton County Court
Gladwell – Telford County Court
Thomas – Oldham County Court
Morris – Portsmouth County Court
Williams – Lincoln Court
Holland – Worcester County Court
Read – Swindon County Court
Gabriel – Wolverhampton County Court
Blackburn – Birmingham County Court
De-Brunner – Harrogate County Court
Schutte – Telford County Court
Rees – Coventry County Court
Pittson – Telford County Court

Also Donningon, whom the judge hinted was dissembling.

DeBrunner and Blackburn did not put up proper defences and Rees offered two conflicting defences.

Perky may choose his cases well, the daft, the diminished, and the barrack room lawyers, the bilkers, the ignorers and little old ladies, rogues, chancers, and the confused, but I suggest that the OP is a different kettle of fish. I think that Mr Perkins would be well advised to let this one get away.

Yes, I am very familiar with the Byzantine nature of Government guff, I had to proof read the Masstricht Treaty.

Umkomaas

Yes, I am very familiar with the Byzantine nature of Government guff, I had to proof read the Masstricht Treaty.

Whoops TD. Wasn't it the Maastricht Treaty? Did you get paid?

Are you taking the BB for a drive today?

The_Deep

Umkomaas wrote: »

Whoops TD. Wasn't it the Maastricht Treaty? Did you get paid?

Are you taking the BB for a drive today?

Yes, I was paid, but at the usual Civil Service rate. It took me three weeks.

Have not yet got the BB, I have to save up to pay the fee.

The_Deep

Oh dear, the OP has had another unsettling letter from the PPC, which I have urged her to publish here.

CPS are bigging up O'Donnell

http://www.combinedparkingsolutions.com/downloads/odonnell.pdf

which, to my mind, was something of an own goal by him. I am convinced that the CPS model is an unfair term in a consumer contract and think that, if the OP, argues strongly enough, she can send Perky home with his tail between his legs.

esmerobbo

TD If you believe I am advocating the OP throw the towel in then you are mistaken. What I am saying is they need a robust defence not a simply it cant be a contractual agreement because they have not given me a VAT invoice.

Hence why I stated at the beginning of this thread the signs are the important factor what offer did they convey to the driver.

Do you really believe £60/£100 is unfair for up to 24 hours parking? Providing the offer is made and accepted of course.

The_Deep

TD If you believe I am advocating the OP throw the towel in ...

I don't

Do you really believe £60/£100 is unfair for up to 24 hours parking? Providing the offer is made and accepted of course.

That would depend where it is, in Monte Carlo or Klosters it might (just) be acceptable, in Blackburn or Billaricay it would not.

I do not believe that anyone in their right mind would agree to the CPS contract, they either do not understand its implications or, for whatever reason, have not read it. If they do not understand it then that may be because the contract has not been explained in terms which the sufficiently make it clear what is being agreed to.

Although I believe that people parking on private land should not get off scot free, I think that in this case the amount being asked is excessive.

Allieowen

We have noted your posts online and despite our earlier PM via this system you continue to discuss the matter via an online forum.

I would advise that this is currently a live legal matter and as such posting copies of letters on an online forum is not how matters should be conducted and it is our intention to advise the court of your postings which have all been retained.
I would respectfully request that you conduct yourself in a manner appropriate to ongoing legal action.

The posters are correct that this matter will proceed 'all the way' against your daughter, she ignored our letters (to which you obviously received as they have been posted online) and upon receiving the first charge she parked there again despite being on notice that charges apply.

The forum posters have neglected to advise you that they have been involved in many cases against Combined Parking Solutions and have never won any, however they always neglect to tell people of this.

I would strongly advise you obtain independent, qualified (none of the posters online are qualified) legal advice.

Posters of the online forums often give people advice and 'cast iron defences' then when the defendant loses they go all silent yet are very vocal when they win against other companies.

I would also add that the case against Beavis -v- parking eye is totally irrelevant to our case as they issue charges for breach of contract and your daughters offer to park was an offer to park.
The outcome of that case in the CoA will also have no bearing on ours.

They are also indeed correct that a contractual offer is always subject to VAT.

You may also wish to view our legal page and in particular the past cases (one was added today of Combined Parking -v- ODonnell) .. this will answer many of your questions about the charges and signage.

It is only correct we advise that a copy of this PM has been retained and will form part of our court bundle.

Hellohellohellohello

This company appears to exhibit exemplary corporate social responsibility. I love that they are reading this forum. I have no experience with them, and have never heard of them before reading this forum. I am not an active member of this forum. Seriously, I don't know how the owners of these companies etc. have no morality whatsoever. I went on their website and read some of their cases, and they are so unprofessional in the way they slate people using these forums! I would like you to know, Combined Parking Solutions, if I ever need someone to regulate a car park for me in the future, it will not be you. Hopefully soon you won't be able to get away with your immoral practices. Corporate social responsibility is becoming more and more important, and your industry is one of the worst examples of this. I in fact wrote about companies such as yours in my recent exam, on the topic of CSR, for my degree at Loughborough University. But seriously, you need to remember that everyone is human, you need to realise that you are also human, and do not need to try and ruin peoples lives. Perhaps you could start giving more reasonable charges, such as £20, which will be just as effective, more likely to be paid by customers. Seriously, I think car parking companies such as yourself have really lost touch with what the whole point of regulating a car park is. Anyway, enjoy your dirty money. Hope your conscience can live with everything if you ever remember that you're human! :')

Could always change your ways and become more ethical after reading my message. I'm sure you'll be forgiven. By the way, I'm not even taking the pxss!!!!, I really can't believe companies such as yourself!!

George

esmerobbo

Well some people will do anything.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/4755270.stm