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TV reception and the law

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probably been asked a million times


TV installed in house , NO set top or freeview boxes and no Arial.


computer at other end of room linked by HDMI cable


XBMC installed on computer , as well as films it will stream UK freeview channels WITH A DELAY


my view is that this is not LIVE broadcasts , is a licence required?
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  • r2015
    r2015 Posts: 1,136 Forumite
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    no Arial

    So you won't be watching any soaps then?
    over 73 but not over the hill.
  • correct , speel chucker let that thru ,


    I blame the yanks
  • JJ_Egan
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    Thats live TV with a slight delay .
    To be honest i don't believe that scenario is covered in anything on the licence site .
    But if the content is coming live to the PC and then sent onwards it will be classed as live .
  • BobQ
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    You have equipment that is receiving live TV? You need a licence. How you view it and when is not relevant if you receive it from a live feed and view or store it.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • however there is a delay , I cannot find any legislation to state what is live and what is classed as a "catchup"


    is it 1 second , 1 minute , 1 hour ? this is not stated in law
  • BobQ
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    however there is a delay , I cannot find any legislation to state what is live and what is classed as a "catchup"


    is it 1 second , 1 minute , 1 hour ? this is not stated in law

    If you receive it live and watch with a delay it needs a licence (see the TV licence FAQs.

    If you do not receive Live TV and only view programmes from an on demand service where the programme is sent to you at your request it is not live.

    If you store live TV and then watch it the delay does not matter it is live.
    http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology--devices-and-online-top8?WT.ac=home_plt_technology#watchandrecord
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • bsod
    bsod Posts: 1,225 Forumite
    just pay it like everyone else, of course it's live

    the pc running costs will be more than the licence fee.
    Don't you dare criticise what you cannot understand
  • Moneymaker
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    All satellite TV has "a slight delay" - about a second for the signal to reach the satellite 24,000 miles away and be transmitted back. So you can't use that as an excuse not to pay.
    r2015 wrote: »
    So you won't be watching any soaps then?

    That would have been amusing except that the washing powder is spelt "Ariel" whereas "Arial" is a sans-serif computer typeface similar to Helvetica and Verdana.
  • however , can I refer you to the fact that several pre recorded sections (continuous) are often shown on youtube channel, eg: last year goodwood , the programme was still being transmitted whilst that was being shown , so by logic of the bbc , anyone watching this on a tablet in the street could be stopped and asked for proof of licence (name/address)
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    however , can I refer you to the fact that several pre recorded sections (continuous) are often shown on youtube channel, eg: last year goodwood , the programme was still being transmitted whilst that was being shown , so by logic of the bbc , anyone watching this on a tablet in the street could be stopped and asked for proof of licence (name/address)

    Plase stop being a numpty. Read the link I posted. If you receive live TV and record it you need a licence, end of.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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