driving without seatbelt fpn

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Richard53 wrote: »

I have checked the memory stick, and the last time I was stopped by a real live copper was in 1984 (Christmas Day, in fact, speeding on the M18). So things may have changed, but no-one told me


Seriously, to me it is more polite and respectful (and less 'attitude') to get out of the car and face the policeman eye to eye - no quick movements or threatening gestures obviously - than it would be to remain in my seat with the window open. On the bike, I would dismount and take the helmet off before anything else, just so you can deal with the issue human to human.


Any young, half-fit copper would take one look at me and dismiss any worries about having to chase me if I legged it.

I was taught by my driving instructor to:


When police or highways agency instruct you to pull over:
1. Indictate to pull in, do not stop in a position to cause an obstruction to the highway or other road users on a brow of hill, or on a blind bend, in same cases police will instruct you to follow them to a safe location if there is a safety risk watch or listen for instruction from the police or highways agency for instruction via hand signals or onboard matrix signs giving instructions to you, once stopped apply handbrake and switch off engine, if at night make sure your lights remain on especially of you are parked against flow of traffic.

2. remain seated in your vehicle with your seatbelt on inc passengers, don't get out opening doors into the path of traffic or walk along the carriage way or motor way, police or highways agency will come to your vehicle, roll down your window to communicate with the constable or highways agency and listen for any further instructions they give to you.


3. upon request produce your driving documents license, valid MOT, insurance certificate, a PCSO told me if your documents are digital, then inform the constable that your documents are online only documents and you have no physical paper certificate the constable will perform the necessary checks they have available to them with the available information given by you and not go into your phone or tablet device to retrieve them as its quicker for the constable to check it through calling MIB.


4. follow instruction from the constable, if he wishes to speak to you in his vehicle exit the passenger side of the vehicle (if on a motorway or dual carriageway) or if this is not possible the constable will instruct you when its safe to open you door and get out, you should not walk near the flow of traffic, when possible move to the passenger side of the vehicle don't stand behind your vehicle or that of the constables, if you require documents from your boot or vehicle when outside or in the constables vehicle ask the officer to retrieve them for you if he is able to do so.



police get suspicious and ofcourse cautious if you don't turn off your engine, they also get suspicious your hiding something or trying to divert their attention away from your vehicle by getting out and going over to them, more often than not from what ive seen unless police wish to speak to you in the back of their car, they will get out and walk you back to your car anyway and pay closer attention to you and go more indepth with things with you, or if theres a safety risk to you then give a shouting at to get back in your car and wait for them like your supposed to do.

Spicy_McHaggis

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

I was taught by my driving instructor to:


When police or highways agency instruct you to pull over:
1. Indictate to pull in, do not stop in a position to cause an obstruction to the highway or other road users on a brow of hill, or on a blind bend, in same cases police will instruct you to follow them to a safe location if there is a safety risk watch or listen for instruction from the police or highways agency for instruction via hand signals or onboard matrix signs giving instructions to you, once stopped apply handbrake and switch off engine, if at night make sure your lights remain on especially of you are parked against flow of traffic.

2. remain seated in your vehicle with your seatbelt on inc passengers, don't get out opening doors into the path of traffic or walk along the carriage way or motor way, police or highways agency will come to your vehicle, roll down your window to communicate with the constable or highways agency and listen for any further instructions they give to you.


3. upon request produce your driving documents license, valid MOT, insurance certificate, a PCSO told me if your documents are digital, then inform the constable that your documents are online only documents and you have no physical paper certificate the constable will perform the necessary checks they have available to them with the available information given by you and not go into your phone or tablet device to retrieve them as its quicker for the constable to check it through calling MIB.


4. follow instruction from the constable, if he wishes to speak to you in his vehicle exit the passenger side of the vehicle (if on a motorway or dual carriageway) or if this is not possible the constable will instruct you when its safe to open you door and get out, you should not walk near the flow of traffic, when possible move to the passenger side of the vehicle don't stand behind your vehicle or that of the constables, if you require documents from your boot or vehicle when outside or in the constables vehicle ask the officer to retrieve them for you if he is able to do so.



police get suspicious and ofcourse cautious if you don't turn off your engine, they also get suspicious your hiding something or trying to divert their attention away from your vehicle by getting out and going over to them, more often than not from what ive seen unless police wish to speak to you in the back of their car, they will get out and walk you back to your car anyway and pay closer attention to you and go more indepth with things with you, or if theres a safety risk to you then give a shouting at to get back in your car and wait for them like your supposed to do.

Sorry but so much of that is wrong.

RichardD1970

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Sorry but so much of that is wrong.

Care to elaborate?

Only been stopped twice in 22 years of driving, last time about 15 years ago, and stayed sat in car, let on my way after a couple of questions so not up to speed with the current correct procedure.

Dan-Dan

Tobster86 wrote: »

Another suggestion; in the UK it's perfectly normal (and by some opinions, polite) to get out of the car, remove the keys, and walk over to the police officer. It puts you in a better standing psychologically too as you don't end up being spoken down to.

No , no it isnt

brat

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

Only been stopped twice in 22 years of driving, last time about 15 years ago, and stayed sat in car, let on my way after a couple of questions so not up to speed with the current correct procedure.

Don't worry if you've nothing to worry about. Just indicate, pull over, and behave normally. Most drivers stay in their cars, which is fine. Some get out of their cars, which is OK if safe, but you may well be asked to stay in your car.

Importantly, if the police on their blues and headlight flash you from behind, don't keep going for 100s of metres looking for the safest place to stop. Just pull over steadily and safely.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Spicy_McHaggis wrote: »

Sorry but so much of that is wrong.

OK PCSO haggis, this is how it goes, my driving instructor taught me this, it matters not what you think is right and wrong, it is what i was taught, be it over thought, and not to the dotted I's and what you Think I should have been taught, I was taught it and that what I have shared. You say it is wrong then yes it maybe in some parts, or it maybe over thought or some things maybe over stated beyond what should actually happen but this what was drummed into me whilst being taught to drive.


If you would like to enlighten us like you say it is wrong then please elaborate and this not post that's wrong and run as this help no one, not helpful to me OP or anyone else who's opinion on the subject differs from yours. I make no mention that this was gospel and this is what any code or act says is to happen, its merely what I was taught that I have shared.

jaydeeuk1

cajef wrote: »

Try reading some of LT's other threads, this is a good one for starters.:D

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5112207=

Oh dear!

Anyone ever seen LT and darkmatter in the same room?

tberry6686

I get stopped pretty regularly (due to time of driving and where I am driving - gets a fair proportion of drunk drivers)

Best things to do - pull over when safe to do so (but indicate to acknowledge the order to stop. (police do not want you to stop in a dangerous place). When stopped, if still on the road, turn on hazards and switch off engine. Do as the officer tells you.

Easy and nothing to worry about (unless you have been a bit naughty)

Spicy_McHaggis

tberry6686 wrote: »

I get stopped pretty regularly (due to time of driving and where I am driving - gets a fair proportion of drunk drivers)

Best things to do - pull over when safe to do so (but indicate to acknowledge the order to stop. (police do not want you to stop in a dangerous place). When stopped, if still on the road, turn on hazards and switch off engine. Do as the officer tells you.

Easy and nothing to worry about (unless you have been a bit naughty)

Why bother with the hazards if you've got a police car behind you?

If you're still in the carriageway they should be displaying rear reds.

tberry6686

If the police are behind you it warns traffic coming towards you that you are there and vice versa, probably overkill but can't do any harm.