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  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    Collabora wrote: »
    but the recipient does not need to know the encrypted code, they can open the email by following instruction.

    However if the recipient is in a country where email encryption is banned (or at least frowned upon) then you could be the cause of issue for them.

    See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/14/spain_encrypted_email_terror_arrests/

    The leaving aside the potential terrorism angle, the key point is one of the charges is

    Lawyers defending the accused said investigating Judge Javier G!mez Berm!dez partly chose to further detain the seven due to their use of “emails with extreme security measures” – specifically, freedom-fighting RiseUp.net’s email servers.


    Heck, and yes I know this may seem over the top, if the recipient is one of a list of countries on the ITAR blacklist, then using encryption could even be seen as an arms deal, as the US considers strong encryption to be arms related and sanctions prevent arms deals to countries the USA does not choose to deal with.
  • RumRat
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    Collabora wrote: »
    who says? It all depends on the company structure who has access and monitors these
    Any company with a decent reputation and a good IT policy.....
    Perhaps you should also look up the meaning of 'Not necessarily'...
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  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Is your boss the sort that watches over peoples backs and always assumes that everyone is doing as little as possible?

    If yes, then your emails are almost certainly being monitored.
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  • shopbot
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    You could drop him a friendly hint by sending a couple of emails to colleagues praising your boss in the highest possible way ;-)

    In all seriousness I've always assumed that anything written on a company email account will be monitored. Normally by IT with any serious irregularities highlighted to your boss.

    I think as you are in a sales environment then maybe it's more likely to happen. I haven't worked in that environment but I'm pretty sure calls get recorded to monitor an employees performance too.

    I would advise against any attempt to stop your emails being monitored. That would be noticed straight away and raise suspicions. A bit like if your internet history was cleared every hour!

    SB
  • gjchester
    gjchester Posts: 5,741 Forumite
    RumRat wrote: »
    Any company with a decent reputation and a good IT policy.....
    Perhaps you should also look up the meaning of 'Not necessarily'...



    Not really, if you remember the BBC Call Centre program all calls were recorded, there may also be other reasons, reputational harm, legal risks, compliance, I think all banks record all calls so probably all emails are "recorded" too. It may be a small sales team that have emails copied to a manager so they can track all orders.


    It all goes back to the company policy, and if you don't agree don't use it. All the places I've been have told you before you even log on that your use may be monitored, was it, no idea but best assume it always is.


    What you as a worker deem not necessary may not be what a company deems...
  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    RumRat wrote: »
    Any company with a decent reputation and a good IT policy.....
    Perhaps you should also look up the meaning of 'Not necessarily'...

    wrong

    A Line Manager/Department Head or whatever they are called by a company is in charge of that line/department and then reports back to the management.

    Everything that happens in that dept falls on the shoulders of the Line Manager/Dept. Head.
    Take a Sales Dept. and a member if the sales team has had a bad night and then sends one of the companies major customers an abrupt email, now how much damage can that do to the company if its not monitored and can be a few days before it filters to the company director when the customers cancels their association with the company.
    Now if the emails are monitored then the line manager/dept head can deal with that staff member and then call their customer regarding this, with minimal outfall from the issue
  • Collabora wrote: »
    wrong

    A Line Manager/Department Head or whatever they are called by a company is in charge of that line/department and then reports back to the management.

    Everything that happens in that dept falls on the shoulders of the Line Manager/Dept. Head.

    In that case, why did you post the following comment?

    Collabora wrote: »
    who says? It all depends on the company structure who has access and monitors these


    If someone can't monitor or access the emails of employees, how can they be held liable for something that they were totally powerless to prevent?


    If you are going to argumentative, at least try to be consistent with the points you are trying to make.
  • Big_Graeme
    Big_Graeme Posts: 3,220 Forumite
    Collabora wrote: »
    wrong

    A Line Manager/Department Head or whatever they are called by a company is in charge of that line/department and then reports back to the management.

    Everything that happens in that dept falls on the shoulders of the Line Manager/Dept. Head.
    Take a Sales Dept. and a member if the sales team has had a bad night and then sends one of the companies major customers an abrupt email, now how much damage can that do to the company if its not monitored and can be a few days before it filters to the company director when the customers cancels their association with the company.
    Now if the emails are monitored then the line manager/dept head can deal with that staff member and then call their customer regarding this, with minimal outfall from the issue

    This is not what any reasonable IT policy would mean by monitoring email.

    If things have broken down so much that a line manage is reading every single email then its time to move for one of the parties.
  • Collabora
    Collabora Posts: 1,360 Forumite
    edited 15 January 2015 at 9:45PM
    In that case, why did you post the following comment?





    If someone can't monitor or access the emails of employees, how can they be held liable for something that they were totally powerless to prevent?


    If you are going to argumentative, at least try to be consistent with the points you are trying to make.

    yes Everything that happens in any company dept will fall on the shoulders of the Line Manager/Dept. Head.

    but it depends on company structure if they monitor emails etc. but even if Line Manager/Dept. Heads dont monitor they are responsible for what happens in that department otherwise what are they their for.

    But large organisations will have IT departments that will have a small team that monitor all communications in and out of the company
  • barbiedoll
    barbiedoll Posts: 5,328 Forumite
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    I work for the NHS and I use Outlook, both in my workplace (via a remote access fob) and at home. I would never send an email with any personal details, any gossip about colleagues or with anything that could be construed as offensive content. I just assume that someone, somewhere, is able to read them, should they wish.

    I had to stop one of my friends from texting rude jokes to my work mobile for the same reason!
    "I may be many things but not being indiscreet isn't one of them"
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