CEL turn up to court. 50 cases of ticketing their own customer's employees

ManxRed

That would do me!

Popcorn machine on order.

bazster

Fergie76 wrote: »

If Deal are the DC, how can they bring a case?

And what were the parking charges for?

They've been performing some pantomime about the "debt" being assigned. No-one believes it. It'll be interesting to see what the court makes of it.

CEL should drop this case now - if they still can. The stuff that's going to come out in court about their tawdry practices could do them irreparable damage.

ManxRed

They'll phoenix.

I have no doubts at all.

Castle

ManxRed wrote: »

They'll phoenix.

I have no doubts at all.

They might do so, but the principal is the Co-op so a claim can be made against them.

According to The Prankster's Blog there is some confusion about who's name the contract is in as reference is made to "a third party, Creative, and that the Co-op's contract was with Creative rather than CEL, although this was a simplification".

Interesting days ahead!

TDA

ManxRed wrote: »

Once CEL stared sueing hundreds and hundreds of legitimate Co-Op customers and the Co-Op washed their hands of it effectively hanging out the customers to dry. They knew full well what CEL were like and deserve no sympathy at all.

I'm not sure who I want to win this. Can they both lose?

I thought the Co-Op instructed CEL to drop the cases, but CEL basically told them to FRO and went ahead with them anyway, or was that a different retailer?

If you're dealing with a company as pig-ignorant as CEL who outright refuse to play ball regardless of the fact you are their client, there are limitations to what you can effectively do, no?

nigelbb

Umkomaas wrote: »

You'd hope the Co-op has some membership of, or access to, a circle of major (and minor) retailers and will give them all chapter and verse on not only how CEL has acted here, but how any other PPC is also likely to follow suit (witness Sommerfield -v- ParkingEye).

When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn!

Lose customers, p/ss off staff, cause unknown grief, cost zillions in legal fees and potential cancellation charges. All so that a handful of rogue parkers (which no one here would condone) are chased off.

Economics of the lunatic asylum. Intellectually bankrupt!

The Co-op acquired Somerfield in 2009 several years before the infamous Parking Eye v Somerfield case came to court. So it was in fact a wholly owned subsidiary of the Co-op that was sued by PE for breach of contract after PE were kicked out for overzealous parking enforcement. Regular readers will recall that the presiding judge found PE guilty of the tort of deceit i.e. what we non-lawyers call lying.

It seems astonishing that the Co-op should be so obtuse as to ignore the true nature & ethics of CEL after their experience with PE.

bazster

TDA wrote: »

I thought the Co-Op instructed CEL to drop the cases, but CEL basically told them to FRO and went ahead with them anyway, or was that a different retailer?

If you're dealing with a company as pig-ignorant as CEL who outright refuse to play ball regardless of the fact you are their client, there are limitations to what you can effectively do, no?

The Co-Op seems to think it can defend its employees against the out-of-control CEL. It sticks two fingers up to its customers.

bargepole

Regular readers of this forum may remember this thread: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4903216, in which CEL appealed a decision from a county court, and were soundly thrashed by the Circuit Judge.


They were also represented at that hearing by Mr Ritchie, and I am surprised he would want to represent them again after seeing their 'contractually agreed charge' arguments torn to shreds.


As for the Co-Op, I wrote to their CEO some time ago about the lessons they should have learned from the Somerfield debacle, but all I got in reply was a load of corporate bullcrap from some lackey, about how 'our customers have told us they can't always find a space, due to non-customerS taking up spaces".


So they bring in a PPC, and in the first two weeks ticket and discourage most rogue parkers, happy days. Except that the PPC wants to recoup the investment, so now they have to start finding other people to ticket.


And who are those other people? Customers and staff, of course. When will they ever learn?

Coupon-mad

Marktheshark wrote: »

Huge mistake asking for the cases to be stayed until this "super appeal" .
Especially now as Capita are involved, the chances of that going udders up is very high indeed.

You mean you think PE are going to win? I don't.

bazster wrote: »

The Co-Op seems to think it can defend its employees against the out-of-control CEL. It sticks two fingers up to its customers.

A perfect summary of what has happened here. I hope other victims of CEL now tell the press about this.

Coupon-mad

bargepole wrote: »

Regular readers of this forum may remember this thread: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4903216, in which CEL appealed a decision from a county court, and were soundly thrashed by the Circuit Judge.

They were also represented at that hearing by Mr Ritchie, and I am surprised he would want to represent them again after seeing their 'contractually agreed charge' arguments torn to shreds.

As for the Co-Op, I wrote to their CEO some time ago about the lessons they should have learned from the Somerfield debacle, but all I got in reply was a load of corporate bullcrap from some lackey, about how 'our customers have told us they can't always find a space, due to non-customerS taking up spaces".

So they bring in a PPC, and in the first two weeks ticket and discourage most rogue parkers, happy days. Except that the PPC wants to recoup the investment, so now they have to start finding other people to ticket.

And who are those other people? Customers and staff, of course. When will they ever learn?

Maybe the Supermarkets might listen now this has happened, if a little bird like the BMPA told them all? Am I deluded to hope one day the Supermarkets WILL get it, wake up and smell the coffee?!

http://www.bmpa.eu/#!contact-us/c1erv

And no, that's not 'our' company, if anyone thinks it is and wrongly accuses me of advertising! The BMPA is a charity and I merely post the link to it to show who I am talking about, for newbies.