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Should my flatmate's partner contribute to cost of bills?

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  • Are the bills going up due to her presence? If not, then no. If so, probably still no - a bit of give & take is the best thing here, and you might be wanting to bring a friend in sometime - it wouldn't look good if your flatmate then says 'that'll be £5 then please, love!'.
  • paul_k
    paul_k Posts: 22 Forumite
    I would add if you have a tenancy agreement (and you should)
    you may be breaking the terms of that.
    If you are both buying your flat,well you need to draw up an agreement on how this will work in future,as I have said before you need to all share costs
  • h15t0r1an
    h15t0r1an Posts: 51 Forumite
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    edited 14 January 2015 at 6:18PM
    If you are niggling about it then it does need to be brought up. As another poster said, work out first what sort of money is it really costing you. Then be honest with yourself. Is the issue also, how it makes you feel. Nothing wrong with getting clear with yourself on those two things. That'll tell you what you want to achieve.

    If you're ok with the partner being there then in a quiet moment suggest do they want to move in, they seem very nice etc. Then I suppose you could remember to say you suppose it could also have the advantage of splitting the expenses 3 ways rather than two. You could get quite enthusiastic about this idea and say what a good idea could be better for all 3 of you. The actual amount for the room would have to stay the same though I'd say it's just the bills you could share. Ask them how would that work, would they like to think about it as it could be a really good idea.

    If the person just being there doesn't bother you and you want to be sure to keep the peace then how about just putting the other person's rent up a bit by the amount you think will cover the extra expenses, without actually saying so.

    Good chance they might go together somewhere else anyway. But if you're unhappy it's silly not to bring it up. If you don't bring it up it will only fester.
  • baxy
    baxy Posts: 50 Forumite
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    LEJC wrote: »
    what does the rented tenancy agreement say about subletting the property...?

    I think most tenancy agreements, if drawn up properly allow the occasional 'sleepover' but if it's a more permanent thing you might need to let the landlord or letting agent know.
  • alggomas
    alggomas Posts: 154 Forumite
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    it depends on how long she has been.
    Also you should approach your friend not her.
    Before you do so have in your head how much and make it reasonable.
    first ask how long she is staying. If friend says "is there a problem", just say no but you think it would be fair if she is staying to contribute say £20/30 a week.[ he is your friend].


    seems fair to me.
  • If you are each renting a room from your landlord as independent tenants then there may be implications if one of you adds a second person who is effectively living there (rather than being a visitor). I have been in a rented property where the rules were that you could have visitors but they could not stay overnight without the landlords permission. In a house of multiple occupancy the landlord has to register the number of rooms and the number of occupants with the local council and has a licence granted on that basis. If for any reason the council makes an inspection (and they can by law) and more occupants are found to be living there than the license permits, then the licence can be revoked and all tenants will be looking for a new flat.


    If the two of you are students then the landlord will not be paying any council tax (most likely). If a third person comes who is working then the landlord will be liable to council tax which is most likely to be 75% of the full council tax and this will be paid for. Most likely by a rent increase.


    If your agreement with the landlord is one person one room then the third person will require a room and there will be another rent to pay. If two people decide to live as one then that is up to them but two rents will be due from them and one from you. If the third person is also living somewhere else then that is like owning two houses if you were an owner not a tenant and is personal choice.


    Good tenants are hard to come by so if you are a good tenant, have a word with the other couple and if you don't get anywhere, speak with the landlord for advice as he may well have prior experience of what can go wrong when extra people live in a house.


    To start with things may be fine but over time an arguing couple in a shared house is an absolute nightmare for other tenants, neighbours and landlords alike as good tenants leave and the arguing couple remain.


    Whilst you like where you are living it may be time to look at other options. Perhaps your landlord has another house elsewhere that would be suitable.
  • Well is she using anything that costs you extra? If not, then no, but if yes, ask your flat mate to make a contribution to cover as that is only fair.

    If he doesn't agree, give notice as this situation should not have happened and is wrong.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    emmasmum wrote: »
    Everyone take note of Mummybears post which is spot on. I rented a property to a wonderful tenant. She then allowed another person to move in with her and it only came to light when we needed to do a repair to the house. I rang our insurance company who said that any person not on the Tenancy Agreement made our insurance null and void. She did not want to put him on the Agreement so we had to ask him to go as we were totally exposed to any risk on the property if there was a fire etc etc. If I was your Landlord I would be having a very serious conversation with you. You risk your own Tenancy if you don't sort this out.

    Get a better insurer then. The tenant has absolute right to choose whoever they wish to be in the property.
  • sulphate
    sulphate Posts: 1,235 Forumite
    If the two of you are students then the landlord will not be paying any council tax (most likely). If a third person comes who is working then the landlord will be liable to council tax which is most likely to be 75% of the full council tax and this will be paid for. Most likely by a rent increase.

    It's normally the people who live in the property who are liable to pay the council tax, not the landlord.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    If you are each renting a room from your landlord as independent tenants then there may be implications if one of you adds a second person who is effectively living there (rather than being a visitor). I have been in a rented property where the rules were that you could have visitors but they could not stay overnight without the landlords permission. In a house of multiple occupancy the landlord has to register the number of rooms and the number of occupants with the local council and has a licence granted on that basis. If for any reason the council makes an inspection (and they can by law) and more occupants are found to be living there than the license permits, then the licence can be revoked and all tenants will be looking for a new flat.


    If the two of you are students then the landlord will not be paying any council tax (most likely). If a third person comes who is working then the landlord will be liable to council tax which is most likely to be 75% of the full council tax and this will be paid for. Most likely by a rent increase.


    If your agreement with the landlord is one person one room then the third person will require a room and there will be another rent to pay. If two people decide to live as one then that is up to them but two rents will be due from them and one from you. If the third person is also living somewhere else then that is like owning two houses if you were an owner not a tenant and is personal choice.


    Good tenants are hard to come by so if you are a good tenant, have a word with the other couple and if you don't get anywhere, speak with the landlord for advice as he may well have prior experience of what can go wrong when extra people live in a house.


    To start with things may be fine but over time an arguing couple in a shared house is an absolute nightmare for other tenants, neighbours and landlords alike as good tenants leave and the arguing couple remain.


    Whilst you like where you are living it may be time to look at other options. Perhaps your landlord has another house elsewhere that would be suitable.

    Your wrong. I can explain why, but the basics of it are.

    The tenant has sole and exclusive rights and can share with 0-10000000 people if they wish.
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