Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

CLAPTON

Rinoa wrote: »

Not just the Daily Record, the BBC also reported it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34837167

one would have thought that the SNP would welcome the opportunity to explain the true facts about life in a independent scotland.

elantan

Rinoa wrote: »

Not just the Daily Record, the BBC also reported it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34837167

How embarrassing for them ... not a surprise though to be fair

.string.

Rinoa wrote: »

Not just the Daily Record, the BBC also reported it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34837167

Naturally we are about to be told that the BBC is anti Scottish, or some such. But the BBC report echoes what what we have been saying here, that the SNP approach uses lies and continues to use lies, justifying their use by boasting about how many people they have fooled. The SNP response also includes the current egged-up lie that the Smith Report has not been delivered and they continue to obstruct the will of the Scottish people as expressed by the Referendum, claiming that the Referendum was yesterday's news.

We have seen that response permitted faithfully here.

Mr Bell claimed the economic case presented during the referendum - which took place on 18 September last year - was based on wishful thinking.
He suggested the current SNP leadership knew this but continued to lead a "morally dubious" government which opposed Tory cuts without any credible alternative.
In response, the SNP said its continuing case for "self-government for Scotland" was being backed by a growing number of Scots who were angry that the UK government "has not delivered on their vow of more powers".
The people of Scotland voted against Scottish independence by 55% to 45%.

The Scots have the right to be told the truth and not be led up the garden path to fairyland.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Naturally we are about to be told that the BBC is anti Scottish, or some such. But the BBC report echoes what what we have been saying here, that the SNP approach uses lies and continues to use lies, justifying their use by boasting about how many people they have fooled. The SNP response also includes the current egged-up lie that the Smith Report has not been delivered and they continue to obstruct the will of the Scottish people as expressed by the Referendum, claiming that the Referendum was yesterday's news.

We have seen that response permitted faithfully here.

The Scots have the right to be told the truth and not be led up the garden path to fairyland.

And you've never stopped to think that the BBC running articles on blog posts is a little, well odd ? Why no blog posts from Bella or Wings then on the 'impartial' BBC for 'balance' ?

In any case, the BBC and the Daily Record etc have been playing the same 'independence is dead' tunes for the best part of four years now. And Salmond's campaign was so bad.. it took the Yes campaign from about 25% to 45% last year ( around 50/50 now ) , a paniced Vow, and 56 MP's elected to Westminster this year. None of the above would've happened without Salmond's campaign.

The only Fairy stories I hear these days are those predicting the imminent demise/honeymoon is over for the SNP. Well, we'll see. Bell obviously has an axe to grind. Mabye the BBC will offer him a job ? He's obviously a convert from Yes to No. A real rarity in Scotland these days. They should snap him up ! :cool:

Rinoa

Shakethedisease wrote: »

And you've never stopped to think that the BBC running articles on blog posts is a little, well odd ?

The BBC don't usually comment on blogs. But when a former Chief Policy Adviser to Alex Salmond states .."the SNP's model for independence is broken beyond repair" the BBC would be neglecting its duty if it didn't report it.

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

The BBC don't usually comment on blogs. But when a former Chief Policy Adviser to Alex Salmond states .."the SNP's model for independence is broken beyond repair" the BBC would be neglecting its duty if it didn't report it.

Oh of course. And he was proved 100% right on just about everything that was wrong with the campaign.... with a year to go ( not really ).

But Mr Bell, who stepped down as Mr Salmond’s special adviser in July, said there was little evidence in the opinion polls this strategy was working.

A slew of surveys published this morning to coincide with the year countdown to the September 18, 2014 referendum gave the pro-UK Better Together campaign commanding leads.

A YouGov poll commissioned by The Times showed more than half of Scots (52 per cent) wanted to remain part of the UK while 32 per cent backed independence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10316878/Alex-Salmond-on-course-for-defeat-in-independence-referendum.html

Alex Bell has been saying the same thing for over two years now.. there's actually very little evidence, that he's got anything at all right so far. He's obviously in a huff with Salmond for not being 'radical' enough in his independence vision.

It's just amusing to see the MSM jump wholesale on any tiny little crumb of 'dissent' in the SNP ranks, even if it's two years old, the third or fourth time it's been said by the same person, and making obscure blog posts headline news. Rattle.scot.? I wonder if the newly founded blog needs a bit of publicity or cash ? Alex Bell should know well enough how to drum some of that up given his previous job.

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Rinoa

He said you wouldn't win.

And you didn't.

Sounds pretty accurate to me.

elantan

I don't think the BBC are anti Scottish ... I do believe them to be Pro British ... think the clue is in the name tbh

CLAPTON

elantan wrote: »

I don't think the BBC are anti Scottish ... I do believe them to be Pro British ... think the clue is in the name tbh

only a bigot and an idiot would make that deduction

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

He said you wouldn't win.

And you didn't.

Sounds pretty accurate to me.

No he said Salmond's 'campaign' was tired and tedious and that there was little evidence of it 'winning people over'. yet BetterTogether somehow managed to lose a 29 point lead from April/May 2013, until Sept 2014. The polls in May that year ( 2013) were showing 28% Yes, 57% No. Bell left in the July saying that the SNP's plans weren't radical enough.

And I don't know if you've noticed or not. But the independence campaign didn't actually end with the loss of the referendum.;)