Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Generali

It's very much to the credit of the SNP if they have taken sectarianism out of Scottish politics. I suspect that rather like racism, it's an idea that is dying as it's no longer relevant to people.

The reasoning behind the SNP wanting the Scottish Government to have the power of Neverendums is obvious and will never make it into the Scotland Act as it will become. Of course the SNP will whine about it but they clearly addressed the last referendum in bad faith.

elantan

I do like the idea of UDI

Generali

elantan wrote: »

I do like the idea of UDI

Sounds about right: ignore the democratic wishes of the vast majority of the population because they got the decision wrong. What could possibly go wrong?

elantan

Nah see I was thinking along the lines of ..... ( had been looking at the front page of the Herald)

Why even go to WM for permission ... it should never be up to them ... have a vote and if the people decide yes then yes it is UDI
.. job done

Incidentally I don't think there would be much hassle .. look at last time no trouble at all after the result from the Yes crowd, unless of course your suggesting the No voters are trouble ?

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Nah see I was thinking along the lines of ..... ( had been looking at the front page of the Herald)

Why even go to WM for permission ... it should never be up to them ... have a vote and if the people decide yes then yes it is UDI
.. job done

Incidentally I don't think there would be much hassle .. look at last time no trouble at all after the result from the Yes crowd, unless of course your suggesting the No voters are trouble ?

Where will the money come from? The last time the 'Westminster Government' (aka London taxpayers) paid for the referendum.

Apparently the last referendum cost £16,000,000. Whose cancer do you propose not treating in order to pay for that?

http://www.audit-scotland.gov.uk/docs/health/2015/nr_151022_nhs_overview.pdf

Cancer: 62-day referral to treatment: Target 95%

2012: 94.8%
2013: 94.5%
2014: 91.5%
2015: 91.8%

I suspect that the £16 million, plus the legal bills resulting from the inevitable legal challenge, could be better spent on curing people.

Mr Salmond was very clear as was Mr Cameron: the referendum was a once in a generation thing. You can't have another one just because you don't like how the last one went.

elantan

Mr Brown was also very clear in his promise of near federalism .... not going over this arguement again Gen ... we've done it to death

I would imagine though the savings from Trident and railway lines that stop 150 south of the border could help ... just saying

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Mr Brown was also very clear in his promise of near federalism .... not going over this argue mentioned again Gen ... we've done it to death

I would imagine though the savings from Trident and railway lines that stop 150 south of the border could help ... just saying

I note also that the Central line doesn't go as far as Aberdeen and the Dover-Calais ferry doesn't go to Dundee.

Personally, I think it's an absolute disgrace that the Edinburgh tram doesn't stop anywhere on The Wirral.

elantan

Generali wrote: »

I note also that the Central line doesn't go as far as Aberdeen and the Dover-Calais ferry doesn't go to Dundee.

Personally, I think it's an absolute disgrace that the Edinburgh tram doesn't stop anywhere on The Wirral.

Oh Gen I do apologise ... I didnt realise that the Edinburgh trams were promised to connect London to the north of Great Britain ... like the HS2 line was

Please accept my humblest apologies on behalf of the Labour ran council in Edinburgh that ordered the trams

kabayiri

Generali wrote: »

I note also that the Central line doesn't go as far as Aberdeen and the Dover-Calais ferry doesn't go to Dundee.

Personally, I think it's an absolute disgrace that the Edinburgh tram doesn't stop anywhere on The Wirral.

It's interesting how people can take exception to perceived inequalities when they are presented as physical things which are highly prominent and visible.

E.g - an expensive weapons system ; a high speed bespoke railway line.

We don't seem to challenge the less visible inequalities.

E.g - the £8bn+ every single year which those evil Londoners subsidise Scotland with, due to their evil largesse via tax collecting.

I don't want to see this 'evil' directed at just one region of the UK. Spread this 'evil' around the whole of the UK . Pro-rata spend for every citizen should be the rallying cry.

Generali

kabayiri wrote: »

It's interesting how people can take exception to perceived inequalities when they are presented as physical things which are highly prominent and visible.

E.g - an expensive weapons system ; a high speed bespoke railway line.

We don't seem to challenge the less visible inequalities.

E.g - the £8bn+ every single year which those evil Londoners subsidise Scotland with, due to their evil largesse via tax collecting.

I don't want to see this 'evil' directed at just one region of the UK. Spread this 'evil' around the whole of the UK . Pro-rata spend for every citizen should be the rallying cry.

The only thing that concerns me is that fiscal autonomy for Scotland will mean utter chaos in Northern England as Scots flood south for medical help as their taxes can't pay for what they have and expect.

Without oil prices at well over $100/bbl Scotland simply isn't solvent even if the SNP and the phony Reverend Stu really wish super hard that they are.