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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Leanne1812
    Leanne1812 Posts: 1,688 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the vow will never be delivered as the SNP will always demand more:
    the SNP will always find some ridiculous reason for an extra demand
    and why not ?
    just practice for the million reasons why the Scots won't pay their share of the national debt when at last we are free of them.

    Only six months now before the scottish elections .....

    I always feel warm and fuzzy when I read your posts Clapton.

    As ever your warm & welcoming feelings towards your neighbours shines through :rotfl:

    Any idea what the polls are showing for next years elections?
  • Mistermeaner
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    Is scotland still there? There's much more interesting things going on now
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Rinoa
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »

    Didn't realise we gave you £32Bn every year. That's about £13,000 per family by my reckoning.

    Easy to see why you voted no.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • Leanne1812
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    Didn't realise we gave you £32Bn every year. That's about £13,000 per family by my reckoning.

    Easy to see why you voted no.

    Do you also know the figure Scotland contributes? Maybe you'll need to delete your post when you've checked it out........
  • Thrugelmir
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    This article expands on what Shakes has been explaining about the surplus.

    Any flaws will need to be pointed out to me as I can't see any.

    As I pointed out earlier. GO's austerity drive in the public sector will be making a major contribution. The SNP could always pay public sector workers more if it wished. ;)
  • ruggedtoast
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    Attempting to shrink the contribution of each constituent part of the United Kingdom into monetary value is a smokescreen used by the elite to ignore the real value of every person who lives here.

    Most workers in the UK are under paid and under valued by a hegemony of plutocrats whose wealth and power is incomparable to those they govern.

    We need to stop squabbling about who has 1/16th more of this or 0.0034% less of that and focus on the real issues. Those being that hard working families all over the United Kingdom, English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish, who have almost everything in common and produce everything of value, are being exploited and used by an elite of people with whom they have almost nothing in common.

    The current situation could not suit David Cameron more. Everyone is resentful of each other but too scared to rock the boat. Scots have been told they can't afford to be independent, the English have been told they can't afford to stop subsidising them.

    Meanwhile we all splinter off into our bickering self interest groups blaming foreigners, each other, the unemployed, how much oil is worth, how much oil isn't worth, and so on, removing any real opposition to the neoliberals and their vandalism of our rights and responsibilities.

    There is no end to this argument. Scottish people and English people are not one another's problem, the 1% and their paid off representatives who run the government and the press are.

    We need to realise this, and regardless of whether you vote for Labour or SNP at the ballot box we need to start looking after each other and start rejecting them. There is, finally, a Labour leader saying it, it's time to listen.
  • Mistermeaner
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    Am I one if the evil 1%?
    Left is never right but I always am.
  • Thrugelmir
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    There is, finally, a Labour leader saying it, it's time to listen.

    Listen to what? Turkeys would abolish Christmas given a vote.
  • CLAPTON
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    I always feel warm and fuzzy when I read your posts Clapton.

    As ever your warm & welcoming feelings towards your neighbours shines through :rotfl:

    Any idea what the polls are showing for next years elections?



    I don't really understand what you are saying


    but presumably you are referring to the attitudes displayed by 'anyone but the English' and the awful 'Flower of Scotland' ?




    and my much posted view, that once the Scot reject the union, we down south, will whole heartedly welcome the flood of the brightest and the best.


    roll on May 2016
  • Leanne1812 wrote: »

    I applaud Shakes for her patience, tolerance and explanations about how it is up here in Scotland. :T

    I find it trying to respond here anymore as I've accepted some of us will never agree.

    I can think of some other words to replace 'patience'.

    I'm not in the slightest convinced Scotland has been politically awakened and is now alert, aware and questioning. If it was surely we would see lots more questioning of SNP, some movement away from SNP and momentum towards the smaller questioning independent parties Elantan speaks of.

    Maybe Sturgeon and Salmond just keep telling you that, as part of their NLP crap. If you say it often enough, people fall for it. And let's face it, it's a nice wee soundbite.

    Maybe I'm just an old cynic.
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