Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Shakethedisease

CLAPTON wrote: »

which ones are all of them?

Err whoever was in charge of education in Scotland up until 1999 ? Then whoever was in charge of devolved education after that ? But like the NHS 'crisis' the education one is largely a figment of Scottish Labour's imagination.

“In terms of the proportion of the population going into higher and tertiary education, Scotland actually has just about the highest in the world,” ONS chief economic adviser Joe Grice told ITV News.

“Scotland also does very well in terms of people in the working-age population (16-64) that have got a qualification at NVQ4 or above.”

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes, the same goes for the SNP. Mcskinflint was saying that the SNP should be justifying all sorts now, that may or may not be in their manifesto. New powers ? We should know what all parties are offering on them before choosing where to put the X in the box. Would Labour raise or lower Scottish taxes, or keep them the same ? It would be good to know !

It's all just hot air really.

I would keep your knickers untwisted.

skintmacflint

Shakethedisease wrote: »

As far as education is concerned. I don't think Scotland is doing too badly at the moment, overall. I suspect you're just nit picking. Again, I have no idea what Labour or the Conservatives have to offer in terms of Scottish education. Care to shed some light ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/scotland-the-best-educated-country-in-europe-claims-ons-report-9497645.html

Can only comment on what I've seen for myself over the last few yearsregarding Literacy and Numeracy in teens. . My wife was also taken aback with it as well. None were from poor performing schools either which made it even worse IMO. Im sure a similar problem exists across the UK.

I believe the Cons proposed more checks on N & L back in 2011 , and again in 2015. They've also proposed some tuition fees for Uni students after graduation, which I don't necessarily disagree with, in light of reading free tuition has been at the expense of less well off students in grants and bursaries.

Believe the Conservatives also said they'd abolish the named state guardian scheme, which I agree with. If Sturgeon wants to try and change the mindset and expectations of certain deprived kids, she should be up front about it. I agree throwing money at things won't solve the problem on its own, which often seems to be SNP policy in general.

The SNP policy of enshrining in law the requirement of councils to narrow the attainment gap is in reality just words, with no bite. So this one annoys ne.

Didn't read anything much from Jim Murphy to be honest. As for their policies on new taxes, who knows what they'll propose. Doubtful if Conservatives will suggest raising them, but you never know. Nothing unfair about SNP being criticised if they increase, leave or decrease them. That's the price of power for any party, sometimes you have to make hard unpopular decisions.

You'll be pleased to know I filled out their survey suggesting they increase council tax, and impose a local tax. In for a penny and all that.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

... I have no idea what Labour or the Conservatives have to offer in terms of Scottish education. Care to shed some light ?

A bit of a daft remark that, but if you want to play that game.

Well, apart from the other contributions over the years there is the per capita funding, increased by the Barnet formula which enables the SNP party to splash out on free University Education (as long as students are not from the rest of the UK).

So what has the SNP done for English Education, apart that is for demanding a vote on its funding to ensure it always spirals upwards?

Care to shed some light?

Come to think of it I have no idea what the SNP contribute to anything outside their bubble, far less to the UK.The

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Mistermeaner wrote: »

Do we need a new scotland thread? Something exciting needs to happen in Scotland.

Incidentally I'm going to Scotland this weekend to compete in the 'coast to coast' race.

I'll let you know how it's looking.

I hope you have a good time!

We are off to one of the islands off the west coast on Friday morning, and the weather forecast is a bit mixed, TBH. Away for a few days with some friends so I'm sure we'll find somewhere to go in the evenings where we won't get too thirsty....:beer:

Enjoy - but I trust you'll not be cycling in front of me when I'm driving to Oban..... .

WR

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

After 2016, there won't be another election until the General election in 2020. If it looks like the Tories will get in with a resounding majority and the opinion polls for independence climb to around 60%... there will be a snap and very quick referendum ( none of this 3 year lead up next time ) on independence before 2021 and the next Holyrood elections. But both need to happen though. Only Corbyn as things stand can possibly prevent either. Bringing ex-Labour voters in Scotland back to Labour... and doing the same as the SNP did in Scotland with his 'grass roots' and young people ground swell continuing to build.

For me this is one of the main problems with modern politics.

There is more talk about "how the other parties would perform even more poorly" than there is about "how we can outperform the others".

Right now, the SNP have opportunities they have never ever had, even though they are part of the Union.

They can raise taxes; they can make their NHS more efficient; they could support business to attract more work.

I say this with 100% honesty and conviction : if the SNP manage to turn around to the rest of the UK and say "we don't need as much from the Barnet formula now, we have boosted our income ourselves and are more self reliant" ; then I would have the utmost respect.

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

I say this with 100% honesty and conviction : if the SNP manage to turn around to the rest of the UK and say "we don't need as much from the Barnet formula now, we have boosted our income ourselves and are more self reliant" ; then I would have the utmost respect.

I don't know why the SNP are holding back from performing this economic miracle. The whole world could learn from them - there would definitely be a Nobel prize for economics for Nicola.

I suppose it'll have to remain a secret until independence.

Shakethedisease

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't know why the SNP are holding back from performing this economic miracle. The whole world could learn from them - there would definitely be a Nobel prize for economics for Nicola.

I suppose it'll have to remain a secret until independence.

Oh, that reminds me...

09/09/2015

A NEW poll has predicted that a clear majority of Scots would vote for independence, if a second referendum were held tomorrow.
The survey of 1023 adults for TNS mirrors the results of an Ipsos Mori poll last week, which also predicted that support for independence had surged since 55 per cent voted against leaving the UK in September last year.

When asked by TNS how they would vote if another referendum took place tomorrow, 47 per cent said they would vote Yes, 42 per cent No with 11 per cent undecided. With don't knows excluded, Yes is ahead by 53 to 47 per cent.
A second poll in little more than a week predicting that a majority of Scots would back independence...

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13656032.Latest_poll__majority_of_Scots_would_back_independence_in_second_indyref/

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

A bit of a daft remark that, but if you want to play that game.

Well, apart from the other contributions over the years there is the per capita funding, increased by the Barnet formula which enables the SNP party to splash out on free University Education (as long as students are not from the rest of the UK).

So what has the SNP done for English Education, apart that is for demanding a vote on its funding to ensure it always spirals upwards?

Care to shed some light?

Come to think of it I have no idea what the SNP contribute to anything outside their bubble, far less to the UK.The

The SNP voted against tuition fees. It was Scottish Labour MP's that voted to implement them in England.

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Oh, that reminds me...

09/09/2015http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13656032.Latest_poll__majority_of_Scots_would_back_independence_in_second_indyref/

I thought the Herald was a terrible bunch of oiks that weren't to be trusted. I'm fairly sure that's been your position until quite recently.

I paraphrase of course.