Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Tromking

Tories now 9 points ahead of Labour in Scotland apparently. The new party of choice for those in Scotland who want to preserve the Union perhaps?

Mistermeaner

Suits cons to keep snp in Scotland strong. 50 odd less seats for Labour that will never be tory

Shakethedisease

Tromking wrote: »

Tories now 9 points ahead of Labour in Scotland apparently. The new party of choice for those in Scotland who want to preserve the Union perhaps?

From a UK subsample of 180 ( and not weighted to Scotland ) ? Hmm.. Ruth Davidson should mabye hold off popping the champagne corks just yet..

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

They blow where the wind blows, clearly.

But you are right, there are Tory policies which would help the SNP cause. For example, the effort to tenegotiate the terms for the UK within the EU, if successful, will ultimately benefit the non-eurozone members of the EU, and thus provide a favourable precedent for a Natland wanting to join the EU without having to join the Euro at the same time.


But then they so like their anti-Tory ranting.

So do Labour... it's not that uncommon in political parties who oppose each other. I'm surprised you even mention it.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

SNP announces it is "Raising Concerns" over "Public Funding for Propaganda"....

Electorate reports broken Irony Meter.







https://twitter.com/theSNP/status/632900499713445888

I'm guessing that wasn't quite the response they were looking for...:)

Generali

baldelectrician wrote: »

Meanwhile (from the Guardian)
The services sector rose 0.7% – contributing 0.5 percentage points of the increase on the previous quarter – while production was up by 1% as a rise in oil and gas outweighed the fall in manufacturing. Agriculture decreased by 0.7%.

The price may be lower now but that didn't stop oil adding 1% to UK GDP- what a curse oil would be for Scotland :rotfl:

Scotland paying more than its fair share again ....

More of the same
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/jun/10/manufacturing-production-drops-between-march-april
North Sea oil rebound fuels UK GDP growth

Yes, oil and gas have added to UK GDP growth although I would love it if you could point me to the posts where you showed the decline.

Let's also not forget that the clock is ticking on the North Sea. In a world where CO2 output is meant to be falling and the Saudi Petroleum and Natural Resources Minister is predicting that oil consumption for energy will be ~0 BOE by 2050, basing your economy around oil isn't likely to end well.

Then again Scotland has experience of that, with the UK Government (London taxes) propping up huge amounts of heavy industry in Scotland long after the economic case for labour intensive industry at UK wage levels was gone.

kabayiri

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Suits cons to keep snp in Scotland strong. 50 odd less seats for Labour that will never be tory

So the SNP are both pro-Tory and anti-Labour by their very existence.

Glad we cleared that one up

I was beginning to question their purpose.

kabayiri

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's about 85% of the Scots electorate that are anti-Tory. Even the ( now much rarer ) Labour supporters are. :eek: Being pro-Tory isn't that much of a vote winner to be honest. The SNP should keep well away from that sort of caper.

2015

Still struggling with the bigger picture I see Shakey.

There is a world outside Scotland.

You don't have to wait for HS3 to travel down South to witness a modern progressive society.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

So do Labour... it's not that uncommon in political parties who oppose each other. I'm surprised you even mention it.

Some parties deserve it more than others.

But that aside, what is your opinion to my remark "But you are right, there are Tory policies which would help the SNP cause. For example, the effort to tenegotiate the terms for the UK within the EU, if successful, will ultimately benefit the non-eurozone members of the EU, and thus provide a favourable precedent for a Natland wanting to join the EU without having to join the Euro at the same time.

.string.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

SNP announces it is "Raising Concerns" over "Public Funding for Propaganda"....

Electorate reports broken Irony Meter.

At first sight a clumsy own goal, but I wonder if it's pre-machinations ahead of a new referendum attempt, quite probably to be declared illegal by the UK Government. As I pointed out elsewhere, an illegal government would likely not invoke legal restraints on the UK Parliament during the referendum process with respect to publishing opinions/guidance on the issue. That would mean a flood of FACTS to counter SNP wishful thinking. So we may be seeing the start on attempt to hobble such reactions, so that the normal SNP blather can go unchallenged.