Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes working together within the UK constitution is what I meant. And if you're so sure that still means Tories will bulldoze everything through, you're mistaken. * coughs, fox hunting, EVEL, human rights, eu referendum date <--- SNP votes, or even just threatening to vote against those got them shelved, for the time being, or more favourable to the SNP ( not holding the eu ref same date or anytime near Scottish elections ).

As I said, they can push through anything if they have the party room.

They got the budget through intact. All they promised was a free vote on fox hunting and that will happen after EVEL is introduced in the Autumn, assuming that goes through which looks likely at the moment.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes working together within the UK constitution is what I meant. And if you're so sure that still means Tories will bulldoze everything through, you're mistaken. * coughs, fox hunting, EVEL, human rights, eu referendum date <--- SNP votes, or even just threatening to vote against those got them shelved, for the time being, or more favourable to the SNP ( not holding the eu ref same date or anytime near Scottish elections ).

True, the Tories can't bulldozer through all legislation.

One must rejoice that the UK hasn't turned into a one party state like Scotland, where a defeat of the great party leader would be unthinkable and retribution would be swift.

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

Just to make the point, Buckie is an English export to Scotland. I have seen it once in England, in an offie in a very dodgy bit of south London.

I tried some. Crivens, it was not very nice.

You may be pleased to know that Buckfast is not regularly consumed throughout the whole of Scotland and is predominantly sold in a relatively small geographical area.
I've even heard of a "Buckie Triangle" which refers to Airdrie, Coatbridge and Cumbernauld areas.

Never tried the brew myself, preferring not to disparage myself due to the negative attention the drink brings.

Once in my youth, I tried a deep fried mars bar though, when that first kicked off.

Never again though

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

True, the Tories can't bulldozer through all legislation.

One must rejoice that the UK hasn't turned into a one party state like Scotland, where a defeat of the great party leader would be unthinkable and retribution would be swift.

Oh dear, oh dear.

How is Scotland a one party state?

I'm pretty sure the ballot papers had Conservatives, Labour, Lib/Dems, UKIP and a couple of minor parties on the ballot papers when I go to vote.

Just because the electorate are increasingly uniting behind one main party shows a couple of things: -

1) That there is a belief that that party is doing a good job and believe in the policies and manifestos presented

2) That inversely, there is disbelief in the other parties.

It's for the Conservatives, Labour, Lib/Dems, UKIP and others to reflect on the wishes of the electorate and if they wish to be elected, campaign in the party on behalf of the electorate they wish to represent.

You could argue that SNP's success is down to the other parties failings

Generali

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

You may be pleased to know that Buckfast is not regularly consumed throughout the whole of Scotland and is predominantly sold in a relatively small geographical area.
I've even heard of a "Buckie Triangle" which refers to Airdrie, Coatbridge and Cumbernauld areas.

Never tried the brew myself, preferring not to disparage myself due to the negative attention the drink brings.

Once in my youth, I tried a deep fried mars bar though, when that first kicked off.

Never again though

I've had a can of Super T (aka vagrant in a can) once. Never again. However (altogether now):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufIZaxYR7j8

I love you,
Special Brew,
Gonna spend all my money on you.

I've never had a deep fried Mars Bar but I wonder if there'd be a market in Islington for organic chocolate tempura?

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Oh dear, oh dear.

How is Scotland a one party state?

I'm pretty sure the ballot papers had Conservatives, Labour, Lib/Dems, UKIP and a couple of minor parties on the ballot papers when I go to vote.

Just because the electorate are increasingly uniting behind one main party shows a couple of things: -

1) That there is a belief that that party is doing a good job and believe in the policies and manifestos presented

2) That inversely, there is disbelief in the other parties.

It's for the Conservatives, Labour, Lib/Dems, UKIP and others to reflect on the wishes of the electorate and if they wish to be elected, campaign in the party on behalf of the electorate they wish to represent.

You could argue that SNP's success is down to the other parties failings

It's a one party state because the SNP can bulldozer through any and all legislation.
The fact that the Scottish have voted them in makes it as democratic and desirable as Russia.
The fact that it is self inflicted is indeed a point to ponder but many societies have gone through periods of collective madness : Russia, Greece being good contemporary examples.

kabayiri

Clapton is right.

It's a bit contradictory to complain about Tory dominance in Westminster whilst seeing no problem with SNP dominance in Holyrood.

To counter this individual politicians could always vote based on their own view as opposed to the party.

However, this isn't something the SNP leadership are particularly keen on either.

Generali

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

You could argue that SNP's success is down to the other parties failings

I'd argue precisely that.

Labour used Scotland as their personal fief for years. It's no wonder that the Scots got fed up and went elsewhere.

I'm not convinced that Scots are voting SNP so much as voting none of the above.

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

I've never had a deep fried Mars Bar but I wonder if there'd be a market in Islington for organic chocolate tempura?

Just a word of my experience in this area for your consideration.

When I bit into the Deep Fried Mars bar, I practically burnt the roof of my mouth with the boiling toffee mixture broke through the crispy exterior coating.

Hence why never again

Make sure you put a health warning on them

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

It's a one party state because the SNP can bulldozer through any and all legislation.

I thought the discussion earlier (may be another thread), cited that the Conservatives could practically do that for the UK.

Your post is therefore null and void