£6350 for new heating

booty40uk

I would say that the price you've been quoted is slightly high. As suggested, a few more quotes are needed.

r2015

As suggested, a few more quotes are needed.

Easier said than done.

r2015

would say that the price you've been quoted is slightly high.

I don't know where you get your quotes from but I have just had another quote,

£7,380.

Seronera

Its inevitable you will get high cost quotes as its a lot of work. Its a complete new install of pipework, plus removal of the old system and upgrading the gas supply pipework. I'd suggest an alternative for you to look into.

How about replacing your existing warm air boiler with the latest condensing model from Johnson & Starley. Now I'd only suggest this if your old warm air is truly knackered as you will never recover the cost of just changing for the sake of it The new condensing version will still be costly as boilers go, but the install is easy peasy and will save roughly 25% in gas costs.

At the very least I would investigate this route before deciding. Retrofitting a wet system to a previous dry system house is a pain. I know as fifteen years ago the company I worked for did three blocks of flats and I was in the thick of it drilling holes in walls and piping up the flats.

What made you decide to change? Was it just economy or has the system been troublesome?

r2015

What made you decide to change? Was it just economy or has the system been troublesome?

Main reason is economy, how efficient is it to have 2 pilot light and a great big hole in the wall for ventilation?

Second reason is there are 2 OAPs in a 3 bed house and we want to downsize and no one wants to buy our house.

At least not for what I need to buy a new house and at my age that means buying with what I sell for less costs.

I notice that a lot of posters are saying if it is priced right it will sell but not where I live.

I have probably got the last warm air heating system in area.

I just noticed another 2 house have heating engineer vans outside.

All I know is that the houses where I am are selling if the have had the warm air heating replaced, those that don't aren't selling or are going for £1,000s less.

I had my house up for sale 3 years ago for offers over £175,000 and didn't even get an offer, or they would buy but for the warm air.

Same house a few doors along but with the warm air heating removed went for £185,000.

How about replacing your existing warm air boiler with the latest condensing model from Johnson & Starley.

Same problem, warm air heating where I stay is dead.

No one wants it.

No wonder my house was one of the last to have warm air, all the houses completed after mine had conventional radiators.

I only bought this house with warm air because I didn't know any better, I was told this was the latest heating system and all houses in Scotland would be like this.

My previous house had a coal fire and gravity fed hot water and radiators.

Seronera

I think we have established on another thread that Warm Air heating systems are badly misunderstood, and unfairly given a bad name by people who just want to flog you a combi. Go to Canada and they are rated very highly in their climate where it is simply just too cold for wet systems to survive at all, but it depends on quality of the installation and the insulation of the property.

The latest models are also room sealed appliances..just like a combi. This means you don't need the air vents that your model requires. They are also condensing and use about 25% less gas than yours.

I quite understand it would still not be accepted by buyers as they have got it into their heads that warm air is no good, but as a heating engineer I am allowed to venture the opinion that they have got it wrong. A modern up to date Warm Air system is a jolly good system...provided its properly installed in a suitably well insulated property, and provided the filters are cleaned by householders regularly. I found that many complaints on the ones I used to maintain were down to the filters not being cleaned between annual services....and we did show and instruct people how to do it. A few just couldn't be bothered, but were happy to moan at us. C'est la vie and all that....

nic_santorini

there are some schemes that offer help if you are on benefits - help link. We are not and had to pay full price. Although their reviews are rubbish. I just had a valiant boiler, wireless thermostat new copper piping to put the boiler upstairs and a new copper tank - that was £3200. The copper piping and the labour of installing a whole new system under the floorboards is going to cost. We worked out our plumber and heating engineer charged £500 a day, so that should give you an idea!!

r2015

there are some schemes that offer help if you are on benefits

I am too careful with my money so I don't get benefits.

Just had another quote for £4,000 but it can't be done until May.

Seronera

r2015 wrote: »

I am too careful with my money so I don't get benefits.

Just had another quote for £4,000 but it can't be done until May.

Well I shall just say that in the year 2000 the company I worked for was charging £3000 for changing a conventional boiler to a combi and installing a thermostatic shower...No new radiators.

If you have been quoted £4000 for a complete new system then that is a very keen price and you just have to make sure the boiler that comes with that is not a nasty piece of rubbish, and that the system is properly flushed out to get rid of any flux...though at that price I'd venture that plastic pipe will be used (we only used copper pipe which takes longer and costs more)

And make sure you get TRVs on the radiators and a programmable room thermostat you can understand how to operate (CentreBrand RF Programmable at Plumb Centre is a rebadged Honeywell at half the price..brilliant bargain!)

booty40uk

I don't know where you get your quotes from but I have just had another quote,

£7,380




I am going on quotes that I have given for similar jobs. Obviously its not possible to price something I havnt seen but you should be looking around the £5k mark for what you've described.


Rads, valves etc £1000
Boiler £1000
Pipework, fittings, stat etc £1000 (way too much but lets stay ballpark)


The last warm air conversion I did was admittedly about 3 years ago but a 4 bed house took me and my apprentice 1 full week so it's safe to assume that yours should take the same. Therefore, I cant see how labour would be more than £2000 tops.


Obviously if you use a VAT registered engineer you will add £1K.


So now we're at £6k which as I said, is slightly high, but not far out.