Dilemma

swingaloo

merlin68 wrote: »

Evidence that someone is claiming a benefit isnt evidence of fraud. i'm actually disgusted that some people think its ok to pry through their friends belongings to catch them out.
this government has reduced this country to a load of judgemental, nasty people.

I would say that depends on the circumstances, getting carers allowance when you are not caring for anyone is fraud in anyones book. This is nothing to do with catching anyone out, its to do with protecting a friend. As Ive stated again and again there is a lot more background to this than just what was posted.


I don't 'pry' through my friends belongings, besides this person is not a friend but a con woman who is potentially dropping one of my real friends in a lot trouble.
If there is any way to stop her from doing this then I will do it.


I personally think that people who do not do something when they know there is a fraud going on are shameful. Many think looking at a bank statement is shameful but if I am pretty certain that anyone knowing the background to all this would have done the same.


It easy to be judgemental when you are not in possession of the full story but I will leave it at that.


One particular poster isn't worthy of a any further response as they have nothing of value to add, however I refuse to be told when I can and cannot post so will still respond to other posters if I feel the need.

merlin68

If shes that bad, why doesnt he just chuck her out? Problem solved.

merlin68

she wouldnt have been allowed to claim carers allowance when she was working though so she must of just started to claim it. Which she wouldnt be able to do if the dad was claiming so im confused.
Esa you have to get a fit note from gp which arent easy to get believe me, this then depends on a medical which can take up to a year to recieve.
None of this would affect your friend anyway. so why is he so dead set against her claiming money for herself to live on.
Tax credits would also know if she was claiming ca as they pointed out to me when i bodged the form up.

Pollycat

swingaloo wrote: »

I would say that depends on the circumstances, getting carers allowance when you are not caring for anyone is fraud in anyones book. This is nothing to do with catching anyone out, its to do with protecting a friend.

So why did you feel the need to ask advice and opinions (which you clearly didn't want unless they were aligned with yours) on a public forum?
Why didn't you just pick up the phone and report this woman?

swingaloo wrote: »

As Ive stated again and again there is a lot more background to this than just what was posted.

Then how can you possibly expect anybody to give reasonable advice/opinions when they are not in possession of the full facts?

swingaloo wrote: »

I don't 'pry' through my friends belongings, besides this person is not a friend but a con woman who is potentially dropping one of my real friends in a lot trouble.
If there is any way to stop her from doing this then I will do it.

But you do pry through your friend's partner's belongings, don't you?

swingaloo wrote: »

I personally think that people who do not do something when they know there is a fraud going on are shameful. Many think looking at a bank statement is shameful but if I am pretty certain that anyone knowing the background to all this would have done the same.

Shameful?
Really?
Reading your initial post, there was not a lot of 'knowing' going on.
Background?
If you haven't shared the 'background' with posters, then how can you possibly expect anybody to give reasonable advice/opinions when they are not in possession of the full facts?

swingaloo wrote: »

It easy to be judgemental when you are not in possession of the full story but I will leave it at that.

If anybody has been judgemental, I'd say it was the person who started this thread, drip-fed information to make himself/herself look good and who snooped on someone else's bank statement.

Podge52

Have you reported her ?

If not and your friend asked you not to report her, would you ?

helping_hand2014

i think admin need to close this thread or smelting as its seems to have turned into a bitter argument now between users

swingaloo

Podge52 wrote: »

Have you reported her ?

If not and your friend asked you not to report her, would you ?

I have not reported her. I have no need to now. I posted yesterday that my friend had now seen also the statement. One poster said that that happening was 'convenient' however its the truth. He has asked her to explain and she burst into tears saying it had 'all been a mistake' whatever she means by that.


The last he told us this morning was that as soon as he returned home he was going to insist she rang the DWP in his presence and find out where the payments are coming from, she has apparently been getting them for some time.


When I started this thread I was a little vague about posting all the details of what I know and because of that Ive been accused of 'guesswork'.


I originally asked for opinions because even though I am certain she is claiming fraudulently reporting her would also inadvertently cause my friend to get into trouble because he is claiming tax credit for them as a couple and I wanted advice and opinions about the best way to go in that circumstance. That's the reason I didn't pick up the phone at once.


I have come across to many people as someone who nosies into other peoples business, I don't particularly care about that, I was asking for opinions on what to do not what I had done.


There is far, far more to this than I have posted but its not necessary for me to put it all on here. No one needs to be in possession of the full fact to advise on the issue I posted about.


I have not 'drip fed' information I have just written what is relevant to the situation I asked about. As for drip feeding information to make myself look good, I don't really understand that comment. I don't care either way how it looks, that's not my priority.


I didnt snoop or pry, I will admit that I looked at something that was in full view but again if I posted the full background to this anyone would understand even if they did not approve.


As for the poster who asked why he is dead set against her claiming any money- I havent said he is, he has been encouraging her to find work , she said she had tried for ESA and told him she had been awarded that, then told him the payments had been stopped.


Just as she told him she was going for a work trial a few weeks ago and he discovered she did not turn up. In November she got a job and 3 weeks later when it became apparent to him that she had received no pay it transpired that she had only done one day and not gone back but hadn't told him.


She has told him that she has not had a penny in either wage or benefits but has been receiving this carers allowance.


Yesterday when I posted I was still shocked by what I had seen but later on reflection I had decided to tell our friend about
it but obviously it didn't come to that as he found out himself.


There's far worse gone on which Im not going to post.


I don't mind if the opinions are harsh but the point of the thread was to ask for advice and opinions on the situation- not on my character.