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Dates on an S21

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  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,756 Forumite
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    23:59 eh? Interesting.

    Neither RLA nor NLA ASTs use 23:59 - just date a to date b. I would argue against 23:59: Unneccessary confusion.

    Armed forces tenant?? You mean he is a tenant of the armed forces?? (cf "Council Tenant"??)
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,953 Forumite
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    00:00 or 12:00 may lead to confusion when dates are concerned. 23:59 or 00:01 is not open to interpretation.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    The question is why you would specify the time at all. "to and including 13th February 2015" is all one needs.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    I'm sure I was awake last night at 12 midnight. I distinctly remember hearing Big Ben on the radio.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    Armed forces tenant?? You mean he is a tenant of the armed forces?? (cf "Council Tenant"??)

    Apparently he means armed psychopath...
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    fishpond wrote: »
    I want to issue an S21 to a tenant in England who is nearing the end of a 12 months AST. (Ends 2359(midnight)13th FEB 2015).
    I may put it in the post (Special delivery)or deliver by hand, I haven't decided yet.
    I want a possession order asaP after AST ends.
    Any idea on dates?
    Not being lazy, just out of time to work it out and be sure it is correct.
    Many Thanks

    The deed is now done, S21 has been issued and receipt by tenant confirmed by email
    S21 dated 7/01/2015 ---after 12/3/2015, I will start eviction proceedings (not the same wording(lawpack!) but the dates given are, I hope correct?)---looks good to me but please correct me if wrong dates.
    Another question--This 12 month ast ends 2359 13/2/2015, What happens with the prescribed info if the tenant stays on after the 13/2/ as the tenant would then be in a periodic, all be it for a short period of time(hopefully). Do I legally need to reissue the PI?
    Many Thanks
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    edited 11 January 2015 at 1:42PM
    Your S21 will be valid, since at the time you served it you had (I assume!) provided the PI.

    But judges can occassionally make bizzar rulings....

    And of course even if the S21 is accepted as valid, the tenanct could still sue for the penalty for failing to provide the PI for the new (periodic) tenancy. again, judge might rule in your favour.... or not.

    So to be safe, I would re-issue the PI. It's no great hardship and covers your backside.
  • g_m wrote: »
    i'm sure i was awake last night at 12 midnight. I distinctly remember hearing big ben on the radio.

    lol

    :t
    Yes I use txt speak
    GET OVER IT! :P
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