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Dates on an S21

I want to issue an S21 to a tenant in England who is nearing the end of a 12 months AST. (Ends 2359(midnight)13th FEB 2015).
I may put it in the post (Special delivery)or deliver by hand, I haven't decided yet.
I want a possession order asaP after AST ends.
Any idea on dates?
Not being lazy, just out of time to work it out and be sure it is correct.
Many Thanks
I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    Don't know about dates but your T could refuse delivery of a special delivery letter, especially if they think notice is coming....or they could just be out when the postman comes.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2015 at 1:59PM
    Hand deliver or send 1st class with proof of postage.

    You only need to give 2 months notice as the fixed term tenancy ends in less than that, so if you plan to do it right now I would just pick 2 months from now + 1 week as buffer.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,756 Forumite
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    Does it really state 23:59?? If so that could be interesting..

    Yes, I've some ideas on dates..

    Was the deposit protected within 30 days of payment, has PI been served & what does tenancy state about freequency of rent payment, please??

    If you wanted possession ASAP after AST ends you should have started sooner (eg before 12th December..)
    Not being lazy, just out of time to work it out and be sure it is correct.
    How much time would you need to work it out then, please??

    Cheers!
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    As said, 2 calender months.

    Use a S21 (1)(b).

    If dated/served by hand on, say, 9th Jan (end of this week), then give expiry date as 'after 12th March (for safety).
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    1) Does it really state 23:59?? If so that could be interesting..
    2) Yes, I've some ideas on dates..

    3) Was the deposit protected within 30 days of payment, has PI been served & what does tenancy state about freequency of rent payment, please??

    4) If you wanted possession ASAP after AST ends you should have started sooner (eg before 12th December..)
    5) How much time would you need to work it out then, please??

    Cheers!

    1)Yes, there is no such beast as 1200 midnight.
    2) Good
    3) Of course, monthly.
    4) It wasn't necessary before 12 Dec, but it is now!
    5)Need to be absolutely correct with this armed forces tenant, so I am also looking for reassurance.
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    5)Need to be absolutely correct with this armed forces tenant, so I am also looking for reassurance.

    They are not allowed to use military weapons (or any weapon, in fact) to prevent eviction.
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    jjlandlord wrote: »
    They are not allowed to use military weapons (or any weapon, in fact) to prevent eviction.

    There are many illegal acts done by people, but I do not want an exocet missile up my a**e, or any other missile for that matter.
    Whether it's illegal or not as I doubt whether I would survive to sue them.
    Thank you for the reassurance.
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    There are many illegal acts done by people, but I do not want an exocet missile up my a**e, or any other missile for that matter.
    Whether it's illegal or not as I doubt whether I would survive to sue them.
    Thank you for the reassurance.

    Why is the fact that this tenant is in the armed forces at all relevant?

    Also no such thing as 'midnight'? - confused.

    Anyway that's by the by - two months notice, probably posted first class, with proof of postage, and give a few days additional, so if you post tomorrow, set the date as the 10th March. (2 days service for post and 1 additional day to avoid doubt)
  • fishpond
    fishpond Posts: 1,022 Forumite
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    edited 6 January 2015 at 4:29PM
    Why is the fact that this tenant is in the armed forces at all relevant?
    Military precision.

    Also no such thing as '1200 midnight'

    "Digital clocks and computers commonly display 12 a.m. for midnight. While that phrase may be used practically, it helps to understand that any particular time is actually an instant. The "a.m." shown on clock displays refers to the 12-hour period following the instant of midnight, not to the instant itself. In other words, 11:59 p.m. shows until midnight; at the instant of midnight it flips to 12:00. Simultaneously, the p.m. flips to a.m., though, strictly speaking, a.m. does not apply to the instant of midnight which separates p.m. and a.m.
    "Therefore 1200 midnight, does not exist.
    I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    fishpond wrote: »
    Why is the fact that this tenant is in the armed forces at all relevant?
    Military precision.

    Also no such thing as 'midnight'
    Look it up.

    Military precision? - Sorry again this is lost on me, you mean you need to do everything correctly? - if so, i agree you do. But this should be the case always

    - anyway like i said the notice is a minimum of two months, so feel free to do two months and 7 days to be clear

    Again? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight

    I mean i know it exists, ive lived through 10,224 of the blasted things :)
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