Three Executors and small estate

hundredk

dzug1 wrote: »

Not necessarily unreasonable if the object has not been left to someone else

On the face of it, not necessarily unreasonable, in fact it's what I'd want to happen. However the 'wishes' are at odds with what mum said to others and don't ring true because of evasiveness in other, more tangible areas.

The concerning thing is the controlling mindset and approach by one executor who has (or claims to have) all the information to hand yet excludes others from seeing it, saying things like financials will be all wrapped up soon. We haven't even agreed whether the estate should go through probate yet, although he says there's no need as it will only tell him what he already knows...that may well be, but the other two executors don't know any of this.

hundredk

dzug1 wrote: »

You MAY be able to take a death certificate into a branch of the bank and arrange the information you want. OTH you may get told they are already aware of the death and are dealing with someone else on it.

Im going to approach the banks anyway as I think I can't know any less by doing so. Could the bank decide to give info to one executor and deny the same to another?

getmore4less

hundredk wrote: »

We haven't even agreed whether the estate should go through probate yet, although he says there's no need as it will only tell him what he already knows...that may well be, but the other two executors don't know any of this.

Probate/LOA tells you nothing.

getmore4less

It seems you were not involved in the house transfer if you were you would have had to sign it.

What you need to know is who are the trustees/legal owners, this can be found out from the land registry.

dzug1

hundredk wrote: »

Im going to approach the banks anyway as I think I can't know any less by doing so. Could the bank decide to give info to one executor and deny the same to another?

They may decide they will only deal with one executor

g6jns_2

getmore4less wrote: »

It seems you were not involved in the house transfer if you were you would have had to sign it.

What you need to know is who are the trustees/legal owners, this can be found out from the land registry.

The Land Registry entry will NOT give a definitive answer as to ownership. This has been here covered many times before.

hundredk

getmore4less wrote: »

Probate/LOA tells you nothing.

No but you have to put rough figures on the application which, presumably have to stand scrutiny later on?

hundredk

getmore4less wrote: »

It seems you were not involved in the house transfer if you were you would have had to sign it.

What you need to know is who are the trustees/legal owners, this can be found out from the land registry.

No I wasn't involved, just advised about it.

Just had a copy of the trust sent to me by the other executor who has also not been party to details of the estate. It appears only he is the only executor named as transferee, holding the property in trust for all executors as tenants in common.

hundredk

g6jns wrote: »

The Land Registry entry will NOT give a definitive answer as to ownership. This has been here covered many times before.

Sorry, I'm new to this.

I've been here,

You will need to order an official copy of the register if you need to prove property ownership, eg for a court case.

got a copy of the register which matches the solicitors copy. Could you explain why this is not definitive please?

Land_Registry

I suspect g6jns is referring to the wider issue re any trust and beneficial ownership (for example who get what should the owner die) rather than the legal ownership as shown on the land register itself.

The existence of any trust for example or that the joint owners may have 'severed their joint tenancy' can impact on the circumstances covered by your post. This aspect is explained in our guidance on joint property ownership

Apologies g6jns though if I have assumed wrongly