Landlord Fitted A Boiler Hes NOT Corgi Registered, need Legal Advice

EliteHeat

Doozergirl wrote: »

Well done JJ. I think you still need need to phone Building Control though - CORGI deal with their registered fitters. As your LL is not a fitter, I'm not sure that CORGI have any powers to do anything. What they do is insure fitters that are properly trained to carry out work according to Building Regulations. If the LL was a registered CORGI fitter, then I am certain that CORGI would be interested as they would strike him off, but he isn't registered so I don't think they have to power to force him to put it right with the threat of legal action.

I think that is the job of building control. Please call Building Control in the morning and ask them what you need to do as I am sure that you will not be charged for them coming out to look and they are the ones who will have the power to lean on your landlord to get it put right at his own cost, not CORGI, who I should think may persuade you to pay out for it without your landlord being correctly reprimanded They may well also take an interest in your landlords other properties and they will have the power to demand entry to inspect work. You need to help protect other students!

I think that you are perfectly correct to say that Corgi cannot deal with the installer since he isn't a registered Corgi bod. They can however provide an expert opinion about the safety of the installation.

The BCO will need to be paid for by someone & this is assuming that you can get one who is qualified to judge - most will not be.

I think your best course, after Corgi have done their inspection, is to contact the HSE. It is this lot after all who would actually prosecute the LL, or, as is more likely, send him a stern letting asking him to not do it again.

By the way, the list of faults as determined by National Grid sound a little bit dubious to me:-

Gas pipe undersizing - fair enough - but I have to say that I see this all the time.

Condensate waste connection. Although this is part of the flue and certainly should be plumbed into something, the fact that it just goes through the wall where it will discharge will not cause the pipe to freeze. If anything the reverse will apply since the vast majority of the pipe work will be indoors where there will be no chance of it freezing. Elongated sections of undersized plastic waste pipe are at risk of freezing, short ones are not.

Condensate waste run in copper - well that is a no-no since the waste is slightly acidic. It would however takes years for anything to happen.

The flue not being inclined upwards - many flues (but not all) have an inbuilt slant to allow the condensate to run back down to the boiler. If this is not the case and the flue is horizontal or pointing slightly downwards the worst that will happen is that the flue will drip slightly.

Pipes buckling? this doesn't sound likely at all to me. The mounting frame supports the weight of the boiler, not the pipe work. I can't in my wildest dreams imagine how it would be possible to offer the frame plus boiler up to the pre-fabricated pipe work as opposed to doing it the right way around.

Obviously it is a hash-up of an installation, but I think that NG may be playing it up for all they are worth. Remember, they will never fix anything and will always play safe by capping the supply. Most Corgis will be able to give details of having to uncap capped supplies and after checking the installation, will have found nothing wrong with it at all.

I'm not defending the actions of your LL by any means, just trying to put it into perspective at bit.

Doozergirl

Nice One, Elite Heat

dolce_vita

I agree with most of what has been said by you and doozer, not sure about this bit
though

EliteHeat wrote: »

I think your best course, after Corgi have done their inspection, is to contact the HSE. It is this lot after all who would actually prosecute the LL, or, as is more likely, send him a stern letting asking him to not do it again.

The HSE only deal with workplaces not homes.

But they do have plans to change all that ............

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/safetyreview.htm

EliteHeat

dolce_vita wrote: »

I agree with most of what has been said by you and doozer, but this bit is incorrect




The HSE only deal with workplaces not homes.

But they do have plans to change all that ............

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/domestic/safetyreview.htm

I think that you will find that this proposal is a possible replacement for Corgi who work under the HSE remit. All domestic gas prosecutions are instigated by the HSE. Usually the first step in this process is to complete an HSE RIDDOR report (Reporting of Injures, diseases and Dangerous Occurances). I have to say though, that unless someone has died or has been seriously injured the LL stands a very good chance of getting away with it - at least once anyway.

Canucklehead

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HTH

Canucklehead

Guy_Montag

http://www.co-gassafety.co.uk/

JJ-07

I will upload the pictures, i am 100% posative that the NG are not just acting up on this. The pipework looks crooked, the solder job on it does not look good.

For NG to say it looks a mess concerns me.

NG said to call out CORGI , have them test it for C02 and they will give further advice on what to do from there.

Canucklehead

Hello again: You can report the installation to CORGI here http://www.trustcorgi.com/beware%20of%20cowboys/whatiscorgidoingtocombatthecowboys.htmx or call their freephone number. We are looking forward to seeing your pics!

HTH

Canucklehead

JJ-07

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Emma37

Why don't you add them to this thread or it will get confusing?