End of tenancy - tenant still there but has somewhere else to live

Pennysmakepounds

It's all so effing wrong the way the law is stacked against landlords.

Allows tenants to take the p*ss knowing there is nothing that the landlord can do.

45002

Pennysmakepounds wrote:

It's all so effing wrong the way the law is stacked against landlords.

Allows tenants to take the p*ss knowing there is nothing that the landlord can do.

Rubbish...

1988 Housing act change that with AST and s21 notice !

It's all now favour of LLs....

domcastro

45002 wrote: »

Rubbish...

1988 Housing act change that with AST and s21 notice !

It's all now favour of LLs....

Not true. I've been a tenant for 15 years and a landlord for 3 years. It's been awful being a landlord and the law is definitely on the tenant's side, from my personal experience

I was a "good" (mug) landlord too - I didn't even increase his rent in 3 years and did all repairs straight away
s21 - what the piece of paper they can ignore?

45002

domcastro wrote:

Not true. I've been a tenant for 15 years and a landlord for 3 years. It's been awful being a landlord and the law is definitely on the tenant's side, from my personal experience

s21 - what the piece of paper they can ignore? so then pay 100s in court costs and mortgage payments for them to do a runner and declare themselves bankrupt?

While it's the letting agent that's let you down in your personal experience, perhaps you should be suing letting agent as well !

The law is definitely on LL side since 1988 Housing act and s21.

Some reading for you http://england.shelter.org.uk/news/march_2014/shelter_exposes_true_scale_of_revenge_evictions

Happy Xmas All....
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Pennysmakepounds

It's a bad few tenants that give everyone a bad name.

I have one living next door to me at the moment.

I know the landlord quite well because he use to live in the property. He is so stressed about this guy and so frustrated about the law being stacked against him.

To cut a long story short he rented the property to this guys girlfriend, she provided all the references and deposit, but he gave them a joint tenancy as asked.

She paid the rent to the LL for 2 months, no issues.

2 months later they have split up, she walked out with no notice saying he would continue the tenancy.

The LL tried his hardest to set up a single tenancy with this guy and he just point blank refused.

It's been a few months now since she left and he has not paid a penny in rent, is abusive to the LL when asked for rent and refusing to move out. On top of that he has done damage to the property.

In situations like this where no kids are involved, the LL should be legally allowed to kick him out after 2/3 months notice.

Instead all the LL gets is red tape and eviction process that takes months to complete.

Guest101

domcastro wrote: »

I have been paying a full management fee to an agent, who as it turned out has been awful. I hadn't been to the property for 3 years - they had 2 dogs and 3 cats, the garden was so overgrown that you couldn't see the shed. And there was no handle on the front door or key hole and stains on carpets. And the tenant is 3 months in arrears. I'm selling the house and just want rid. The agents are useless and just trying to get money out of me - I've had enough. I was an "accidental" landlord and just want rid and move on. This was why I was going to let the arrears go - more because I just want it all over. I have a buyer for the house and the tenant was surprisingly helpful and cooperative so this also made me more generous. But really, the tenant and agents have taken me for a mug! kind of funny - being a landlord is not for me.

He's got another place but is taking ages moving from one to another. I just hope he's out on the 29th, I can get a lock fitted and tidy up for the buyers.

Your misding the point. Even if he's out on the 29th, the tenancy isn't finished... Listen to what your being told

Guest101

domcastro wrote: »

Not true. I've been a tenant for 15 years and a landlord for 3 years. It's been awful being a landlord and the law is definitely on the tenant's side, from my personal experience

I was a "good" (mug) landlord too - I didn't even increase his rent in 3 years and did all repairs straight away
s21 - what the piece of paper they can ignore?

Omg - glad your leaving the game

A s21 is notice of intent to begin court proceedings, not notice to quit...

The law is on the LLs side, if you know it. Don't be offended, clearly not for you this being a landlord malarkey.

Guest101

Pennysmakepounds wrote: »

It's a bad few tenants that give everyone a bad name.

I have one living next door to me at the moment.

I know the landlord quite well because he use to live in the property. He is so stressed about this guy and so frustrated about the law being stacked against him.

To cut a long story short he rented the property to this guys girlfriend, she provided all the references and deposit, but he gave them a joint tenancy as asked.

She paid the rent to the LL for 2 months, no issues.

2 months later they have split up, she walked out with no notice saying he would continue the tenancy.

The LL tried his hardest to set up a single tenancy with this guy and he just point blank refused.

It's been a few months now since she left and he has not paid a penny in rent, is abusive to the LL when asked for rent and refusing to move out. On top of that he has done damage to the property.

In situations like this where no kids are involved, the LL should be legally allowed to kick him out after 2/3 months notice.

Instead all the LL gets is red tape and eviction process that takes months to complete.

'Should' - speak to your MP

Your friend just needs to issue a s8 notice and sue them BOTH for the rent arrears.

G_M

Why on earth would you 'write off' thousands of pounds of rent, and let the T get away with this.

Evict properly, by all means possible - not just one. ie S21 then court AND S8 + court. If one fails the other will succeed.

Then sue for the rent arrears.

Pixie5740

Pennysmakepounds wrote: »

It's a bad few tenants that give everyone a bad name.

I have one living next door to me at the moment.

I know the landlord quite well because he use to live in the property. He is so stressed about this guy and so frustrated about the law being stacked against him.

To cut a long story short he rented the property to this guys girlfriend, she provided all the references and deposit, but he gave them a joint tenancy as asked.

She paid the rent to the LL for 2 months, no issues.

2 months later they have split up, she walked out with no notice saying he would continue the tenancy.

The LL tried his hardest to set up a single tenancy with this guy and he just point blank refused.

It's been a few months now since she left and he has not paid a penny in rent, is abusive to the LL when asked for rent and refusing to move out. On top of that he has done damage to the property.

In situations like this where no kids are involved, the LL should be legally allowed to kick him out after 2/3 months notice.

Instead all the LL gets is red tape and eviction process that takes months to complete.

What did your former neighbour expect if he couldn't be bothered referencing and checking out both tenants before giving them a joint tenancy? Referencing isn't foolproof but if you can't be bothered to do it at all don't be shocked if you end up with a crappy tenant. The saving grace is that, despite her moving out, he has two people to pursue for rent arrears and damages. Let's just hope he managed to get the rest of his responsibilities right or he could be up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

If a tenant is in rent arrears then all he has to do is issue a Section 8. He could go down the belt and braces route and issue a Section 21 too. If any future landlords contact him for a reference about either of this pair he should be honest to save another landlord the headache of dealing with them.