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Obesity To Be Classed As A Disabiity

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  • DavidF
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    Well I am fat/overweight and I know why - I eat too much junk food and don't exercise enough.
    Me and my oh were having this very conversation just the other day (think this study/report was on TV debate). My oh said the line about how "many" people can't help it and its a medical condition ect....I responded by pointing out that there does not seem to be many homeless people nor people from 3rd world countries with these medical conditions that make them overweight.....the conversation went kind of flat after that (Unlike my belly)
  • tomtontom
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    poppy12345 wrote: »
    Sometimes people should keep their thoughts to their self and this is most certainly one of them. You have no idea what so ever of someones reason for being over weight! I am over weight and have been for many years but i don't sit and binge all day everyday! Have you ever thought that some people may have health issues that make them unable to do exercise to make weight loss easier? Have you ever thought that people maybe on a lot of different medications that certainly don't help with their weight either? I'm one of them. I would love to be able to exercise, infact i would love to be able to walk long enough to exercise. I don't have this option which makes excersising almost impossible! Rant over.

    I used to be fat too, I used to find every excuse under the sun to blame for my weight - including an underactive thyroid, medication and mobility issues. Then I realised the only person that controlled my weight was me. So I worked my backside off (literally), completely changed my eating habits, and now manage to maintain a healthy weight.

    Rant all your want, but the fact is the only thing that keeps you being fat is your denial.
  • Angry_Bear
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    tomtontom wrote: »
    I used to be fat too, I used to find every excuse under the sun to blame for my weight - including an underactive thyroid, medication and mobility issues. Then I realised the only person that controlled my weight was me. So I worked my backside off (literally), completely changed my eating habits, and now manage to maintain a healthy weight.

    Rant all your want, but the fact is the only thing that keeps you being fat is your denial.
    I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here, but I'd like to draw your attention to:
    A new study by medics at University College London warns that reproaching people for being overweight only makes them fatter. Far from being motivated to slim down, they turn to comfort-eating to soothe their hurt feelings. The study found that people who felt they had been “fat-shamed” were six times as likely to become obese.
    Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/wellbeing/11090524/Other-peoples-weight-gain-is-none-of-our-business.html
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  • tomtontom wrote: »
    Lots of excuses, and no valid reasons for being overweight. Many people find it difficult to maintain a healthy weight, but do so through sheer hard work.

    Did you actually read the post?? Spellkaster explains exactly her medical reasons which effect her weight.

    I often find those people who are big and have slimmed down behave worst towards overweight people, because they have the attitude 'I can do it, why can't you'.

    It doesn't make them look very clever.
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  • tomtontom wrote: »
    Lots of excuses, and no valid reasons for being overweight. Many people find it difficult to maintain a healthy weight, but do so through sheer hard work.

    No excuses sorry.

    My heart problem is sinus tachycardia which is basically fast heart rate.

    You dont know me or my problems so dont be so judgemental.

    I've tried dieting to no available and even my gp has said with my problems its very hard to loose weight!!
  • Mrs_Ryan
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    I have sinus tachycardia and I've lost five stone.. Since I have lost weight it's settled down quite a lot. i had PCOS so bad that the cysts turned cancerous- it was one of the very rare extreme cases of PCOS and I had the top gynaecologists in the country on it. Yes I agree, it is very hard to lose weight with PCOS but it ain't impossible. And I'm sorry but when I started to exercise I got out of breath quickly as well but I was doing an hour a day on the exercise bike and walk miles as well. It was blinking hard but the tachycardia has nowt to do with getting out of breath. And I used to be on medication for it so it wasn't slight- and guess what I'm no longer on medication for it and my heart rate is generally ok now. My best mate is a size 24 so I certainly don't look down on bigger people now I've slimmed down- I'm still a size 16 and technically clinically obese so I'm no skinny Minnie either!
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  • jblack_2
    jblack_2 Posts: 1,435 Forumite
    nannytone wrote: »
    as for a previous poster daying people will gain weight to get benefits ... you really need to grow up a little!
    this issue is about people being treated as disabled for work rights purposes and not as descriptors for benefit purposes.
    and a fairly low proportion of the population would be capable of gaining weight to the degree where they are morbidly obese!

    And if lazy people don't want to get a job they can now use being overweight as an excuse, because they now have a label - disabled.

    Of course this would never happen though would it? Just like people who pump out child after child knowing they'll get paid for it? Again that doesn't happen either.

    Anyway, I'll go back to reading my Daily Mail now:D.
  • nannytone writes in bold because she is blind.

    Partially blind presumably. If she can see to type the message and read the posts of others, the benefit of the bold type must be fairly limited.
    A new study by medics at University College London warns that reproaching people for being overweight only makes them fatter. Far from being motivated to slim down, they turn to comfort-eating to soothe their hurt feelings. The study found that people who felt they had been “fat-shamed” were six times as likely to become obese.

    This sounds reasonable to a degree, but by the time their feelings are getting hurt they're already fat. It would be better to address why they comfort eat in the first place, then the solution will work when their feelings get hurt for other reasons too.

    I think that this sheds more light on the problem than any amount of research. Just how many episodes would you have to watch before you realise that if you go on the show you're going to get made a fool of? It baffles me how they can still find contestants.
  • Angry_Bear
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    jack_pott wrote: »
    This sounds reasonable to a degree, but by the time their feelings are getting hurt they're already fat. It would be better to address why they comfort eat in the first place, then the solution will work when their feelings get hurt for other reasons too.
    I would agree completely. I posted that info because there seems to be a lot of people round here who think that "fat shaming" is a good idea - I disagree.
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  • Over the past year I've been very limited on activity due to a pretty nasty diabetic foot ulcer, so had to adjust both insulin and food portion sizes etc to ensure I don't put any weight on.

    It can be done, but probably takes a reason to be more disciplined, my reason is heart disease and severe vascular problems in legs. Getting overweight would just make life more difficult.

    I once employed a guy on a contract who was morbidly obese. Just provided him with a chair with no arms and he was good to go. Other small restrictions were stairs and things like meetings held in different buildings, travel arrangements etc. This was 20 years ago and this weight level wasn't so routinely seen back then. But his contribution to the firm was worth any minor adjustment.

    He would have been really annoyed to have a disability label thrust on him .
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