Obesity To Be Classed As A Disabiity

stefos

I think that anyone with more than one chin should be penalized... ;-)

lisyloo

Mostly, but not in all cases, it really is as simple as that

It's very simple to define the problem and if you want to be harsh it's very simple to define the solution i.e. eat less move more.
However most of us recognise that there is a great difficulty in losing weight and the reasons people overeat are complex and deep rooted.
I consider myself intelligent but I'm on the overweight category for a number of reasons e.g.
1) simply portion sizes being too big
2) obligation eating
3) a fundamental natural drive to eat everything when it's available (yes that's INSTINCT)
4) habit
5) what I was told as a child
6) other people deciding my portion sizes e.g. restuarant chefs

I am now addressing my overweight issue with LONG term habit changes but although I consider myself intelligent I would say that changing habits is anything but easy and to be honest I don't really have other issues to deal with at the same time.

We need to be compassionate and HELP people.
We do now at least recognise that being horrible to fat people doesn't actually make the problem better.
Would we be horrible to a drug addict or alchoholic or would we like to think we'd be non-judgmental and help them? I'd like to think it's the lattter.

SPELLKASTER

Some poeple like myself are overweight due to genuine medical problems.

I have an under active thyroid, and polysystic ovary syndrome.

Both conditions are well known for weight gain.

I don't sit there and eat loads of crap, and try to lead a healthy diet.

I also have a heart condition which makes exercising difficult as I get out of breath so quickly.

It really annoys me that when people are big they are called nasty names and are made to feel less about themselves.

Being overweight as in my case is due to medical problems, and not lifestyle choice.

Vectis

nannytone wrote: »

i totally accept that mental health can be a big issue ... but many mental health problems can be helped, if not cured.
you see whole families of overweight people ... this is lifestyle issues. how often do you see a family with just one morbidly obese person and the rest are averaged sized?
as has been said ... no one goes to sleep a normal weight and wakes up the next morning with a massive weight issue.
people need to help themselves a bit more insyead of expecting the system to sort out every little self inflicted issue for them.
by the way , i do think larger people should be accomodated as much as usual ( larger chairs etc) but when it comes to caalling obesity across the board a disability thats wrong.

as for a previous poster daying people will gain weight to get benefits ... you really need to grow up a little!
this issue is about people being treated as disabled for work rights purposes and not as descriptors for benefit purposes.
and a fairly low proportion of the population would be capable of gaining weight to the degree where they are morbidly obese!

Please don't write in bold. It makes it difficult to read and is quite annoying - almost as bad as shouting. Thanks.

Vectis

lisyloo wrote: »

It's very simple to define the problem and if you want to be harsh it's very simple to define the solution i.e. eat less move more.
However most of us recognise that there is a great difficulty in losing weight and the reasons people overeat are complex and deep rooted.
I consider myself intelligent but I'm on the overweight category for a number of reasons e.g.
1) simply portion sizes being too big
2) obligation eating
3) a fundamental natural drive to eat everything when it's available (yes that's INSTINCT)
4) habit
5) what I was told as a child
6) other people deciding my portion sizes e.g. restuarant chefs

I am now addressing my overweight issue with LONG term habit changes but although I consider myself intelligent I would say that changing habits is anything but easy and to be honest I don't really have other issues to deal with at the same time.

We need to be compassionate and HELP people.
We do now at least recognise that being horrible to fat people doesn't actually make the problem better.
Would we be horrible to a drug addict or alchoholic or would we like to think we'd be non-judgmental and help them? I'd like to think it's the lattter.

Ok, this obviously doesn't refer to you, but take a look in any McDonalds on any given day and you'll be pretty much guaranteed to see a fairly high proportion of overweight (fat) people in there filling their faces with burgers and fries.

Are we supposed to feel compassionate towards them? Are you telling me they really have no control over going into McDonalds and ordering fast food? I've never been aware of gangs of McDonalds workers grabbing people off the streets and force feeding them burgers.

Yes, there are some people who have a medical condition which means they are overweight, but I think what we are talking about here are those who simply eat too much and eat too much of the wrong kind of food.

Do I feel an urge to 'help' them, as you suggest? No, not really. How would you help one of these people anyway? Block the doors of the fast food places to stop them getting in and eating themselves fat.

Once again, I'll reiterate, this isn't aimed at those with medical problems just those who choose to over eat (and there are quite a number of those).

tomtontom

Vectis wrote: »

Please don't write in bold. It makes it difficult to read and is quite annoying - almost as bad as shouting. Thanks.

nannytone writes in bold because she is blind.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Vectis wrote: »

Please don't write in bold. It makes it difficult to read and is quite annoying - almost as bad as shouting. Thanks.

Please think before you whine, why might one person use a thick bold typeface ?

tomtontom

SPELLKASTER wrote: »

Some poeple like myself are overweight due to genuine medical problems.

I have an under active thyroid, and polysystic ovary syndrome.

Both conditions are well known for weight gain.

I don't sit there and eat loads of crap, and try to lead a healthy diet.

I also have a heart condition which makes exercising difficult as I get out of breath so quickly.

It really annoys me that when people are big they are called nasty names and are made to feel less about themselves.

Being overweight as in my case is due to medical problems, and not lifestyle choice.

Lots of excuses, and no valid reasons for being overweight. Many people find it difficult to maintain a healthy weight, but do so through sheer hard work.

poppy12345

tomtontom wrote: »

Lots of excuses, and no valid reasons for being overweight. Many people find it difficult to maintain a healthy weight, but do so through sheer hard work.

Sometimes people should keep their thoughts to their self and this is most certainly one of them. You have no idea what so ever of someones reason for being over weight! I am over weight and have been for many years but i don't sit and binge all day everyday! Have you ever thought that some people may have health issues that make them unable to do exercise to make weight loss easier? Have you ever thought that people maybe on a lot of different medications that certainly don't help with their weight either? I'm one of them. I would love to be able to exercise, infact i would love to be able to walk long enough to exercise. I don't have this option which makes excersising almost impossible! Rant over.

poppy12345

Vectis wrote: »

Please don't write in bold. It makes it difficult to read and is quite annoying - almost as bad as shouting. Thanks.

This is yet another post where people to should consider others. This is a thread for people with disabilities and the person in question who types in BOLD is in fact BLIND. Wow seriously some people.