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InsideInsurance

shortchanged wrote: »

No I would argue that you are overpaying for an underspecced computer which to me equates to style over substance.

So if you paid an extra £10 for a better looking case to the one you are thinking of then that whole computer is now also style of substance???? Certainly an odd definition of the phrase.

Actually, really isnt having any case at all style over substance? Seen plenty of Raspberry Pi machines used caseless.

shortchanged_2

InsideInsurance wrote: »

So if you paid an extra £10 for a better looking case to the one you are thinking of then that whole computer is now also style of substance???? Certainly an odd definition of the phrase.

Actually, really isnt having any case at all style over substance? Seen plenty of Raspberry Pi machines used caseless.

Slight exaggeration don't you think, seeing as it's usually a lot more than £10 for the snazzy case on a Mac

PenguinJim

InsideInsurance wrote: »

So if you paid an extra £10 for a better looking case to the one you are thinking of then that whole computer is now also style of substance????

No, just the case.

Overpay by 50% for a more stylish case and your overpayment was for the case's style over its substance. Overpay by 50% for a computer because it's Apple and your overpayment was for the brand - which certainly falls into the "style" category rather than "substance".

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Actually, really isnt having any case at all style over substance? Seen plenty of Raspberry Pi machines used caseless.

My case has been wonderfully convenient for arranging all of my PC innards, reducing overall noise, creating a silent but effective airflow, and allowing me to easily move my PC when needed - as well as letting me leave things lying on top of it now and again and protecting the components from dust as well as potential splash damage (just last month a glass of water was dropped and smashed within a few meters of the PC). Certainly well worth the £24 over the past four years.

I did consider using a shoe box and hanging the components from coat hangers (my motherboard has power/reset buttons on the board itself, so it would have been practicable), but for the above reasons the case was an overwhelming "case" (sorry) of substance over style.

It sounds to me like you've never had a computer! Just "seen" some, as you say.

InsideInsurance

shortchanged wrote: »

Slight exaggeration don't you think, seeing as it's usually a lot more than £10 for the snazzy case on a Mac

Its a fairly common technique in making a point.

The problem with mac cases is that they are so snazzy you need to also redesign the components so they fit in it, not that is to the detriment of their performance (just repairability)

shortchanged_2

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Its a fairly common technique in making a point.

The problem with mac cases is that they are so snazzy you need to also redesign the components so they fit in it, not that is to the detriment of their performance (just repairability)

So you end up filling the snazzy case up with poorly specced components for the money which funnily enough equates to style over substance.

InsideInsurance

shortchanged wrote: »

So you end up filling the snazzy case up with poorly specced components for the money which funnily enough equates to style over substance.

Not sure how many people need more than 3.5ghz i7, 32gb ram, 1tb SSD etc? Its as specced as you want it to be, what more? then get a different snazzy case and you can go up to 2.7ghz 12 core E5 based machine.

Your paying a premium for styling/ smaller foot print, whatever you are wanting to call it, but there is no need to sacrifice substance for a snazzy case.


Guess we will agree to disagree :beer:

shortchanged_2

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Not sure how many people need more than 3.5ghz i7, 32gb ram, 1tb SSD etc? Its as specced as you want it to be, what more? then get a different snazzy case and you can go up to 2.7ghz 12 core E5 based machine.

Your paying a premium for styling/ smaller foot print, whatever you are wanting to call it, but there is no need to sacrifice substance for a snazzy case.


Guess we will agree to disagree :beer:

You can't really shift the argument by saying that its spec is more than adequate for most people which of course it probably is but you ain't half paying a premium for that snazzy case.

If people come on here asking for advice on a PC to buy for word processing and internet no one in their right mind would suggest a £1000 i7 computer for the job because it would be overkill. So why do people think that a £1000 Mac which you get a much poorer spec on offers anything like value for money?

This is what I and many others mean. Macs are nothing but clever marketing and they have cleverly convinced a lot of people that their devices are superior when in reality as I stated before you are actually paying for style over substance.

AJXX

shortchanged wrote: »

Macs are nothing but clever marketing and they have cleverly convinced a lot of people that their devices are superior when in reality as I stated before you are actually paying for style over substance.

Utter balls.

OS X is far superior to windows in every single way possible.

People who compare Macs to Windows on pure specs alone have no idea what they're talking about. You can not run OS X on standard Windows hardware, which means any comparison is a load of crap since the OS's and user experience are entirely different.

shortchanged_2

AJXX wrote: »

Utter balls.

OS X is far superior to windows in every single way possible.

People who compare Macs to Windows on pure specs alone have no idea what they're talking about. You can not run OS X on standard Windows hardware, which means any comparison is a load of crap since the OS's and user experience are entirely different.

So macs use totally different components to standard PCs do they?

InsideInsurance

shortchanged wrote: »

This is what I and many others mean. Macs are nothing but clever marketing and they have cleverly convinced a lot of people that their devices are superior when in reality as I stated before you are actually paying for style over substance.

They clearly are more than clever marketing, for one some people do care what their phone/ computer etc looks like

Secondly their kit is robust, name another 11" laptop with a metal rather than plastic case that is as light as a macbook air and convenient to carry around?

There is also a good reason why you get so many threads on here about how someone's window machine is slow, not booting, keeps getting a BSoD etc and yet almost no similar threads about Macs despite the growing market share they have - 13% in the USA.

iOS devices dont age as well their computers but in the decades I had windows machines I never had one that lasted more than 3-4 years before it was painfully slow, unstable and unable to run most the lastest applications even after a reinstall. Until my new iMac turns up/ my old one is collected then all my Apple computers are over 5 years and never had a major problem with any of them, never had to reinstall the OS, never had an application that wont run on any of them and the only reason the iMac is being changed is for the high resolution screen before the loss of student discount