Mac Book Pro Finance?

fred246

I wanted to make sure that no-one in the family was ever short of a PC to use. So I have a whole row of PCs that I maintain myself. I only ever replace bits that are needed to ensure each PC works perfectly. The largest expense ever needed is to replace motherboard, processor and RAM together. This costs about £100-£200. I couldn't have paid more than £600 in last 10 years. When people say pay £2.5K for one computer I can't believe it. Only problem now is that a lot of us use phones and tablets instead of PC but they are there when people want to use a proper computer. I work hard but don't believe in throwing money away.

SuperHan

Back to the OP's initial query...

If you can get an NUS Extra card while at your 6th form (I could at mine, but I know all 6th formers can't), that also entitles you to the Apple educational discount, so may be worth pursuing that if you can't wait until University.

I think the NUS Extra costs around £12 per year, and I usually make that back the first time I go out for a meal and get 25% off!

Nasqueron

suicidebob wrote: »

A few folk say this, but never come up with any examples.

Strange, that.

13"Macbook Pro £899
Intel Core i5 processor 2.5ghz
4gb RAM
500gb HD
Intel HD Graphics 4000

13 Alienware (dell) £899
Intel® Cor i5-4210U Processor 2.7ghz
8gb RAM
1TB HDD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M 2GB GDDR5

Same price but faster CPU, twice the ram, twice the storage and a fantastic GFX vs the generic one in the apple setup


11" macbook air £749
1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor
Intel HD Graphics 5000
4GB memory

17" dell inspiron £749
3.1ghz i7-4510U
16gb RAM
1tb HD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 750M 2GB DDR5

Would you like me to look up some more?

OP is on a Money SAVING website hence recommendation for a cheaper and/or better alternative than paying the premium for the name and getting a worse spec.

If you want to buy a shiny apple I am not saying not to, I did say the machine was decent, it's just you pay more for the name and I'm not a brand obsessive so would go for better performance for the money

Nada666

prowla wrote: »

A Mac has always been a PC, as have all the other non-Windows/Intel (aka Wintel) brands which have existed over the years.

Nonsense. You have to read terms in context. And "PC" does not stand for "personal computer" - it stands for Wintel personal computer. Macintosh may now be *nixtel machines but there is no need to be silly over things.

Nada666

thebritishbloke wrote: »

Without turning this into a Mac vs PC thread, it's peoples own decisions what you spend the money on. A Dacia Sandero is just as good as a Citroen C1, but people will go for the Citroen over the Dacia.

Their customer service is the best I've ever used, and I've had a miniscule amount of problems with my Apple products, and when I have had problems they've been fixed immediately.

"Minuscule number", please. Though "small number" would be better. Or using "few" or "little" best.

suicidebob

Nasqueron wrote: »

13"Macbook Pro £899
Intel Core i5 processor 2.5ghz
4gb RAM
500gb HD
Intel HD Graphics 4000

13 Alienware (dell) £899
Intel® Cor i5-4210U Processor 2.7ghz
8gb RAM
1TB HDD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M 2GB GDDR5

Same price but faster CPU, twice the ram, twice the storage and a fantastic GFX vs the generic one in the apple setup


11" macbook air £749
1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor
Intel HD Graphics 5000
4GB memory

17" dell inspiron £749
3.1ghz i7-4510U
16gb RAM
1tb HD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 750M 2GB DDR5

Would you like me to look up some more?

OP is on a Money SAVING website hence recommendation for a cheaper and/or better alternative than paying the premium for the name and getting a worse spec.

If you want to buy a shiny apple I am not saying not to, I did say the machine was decent, it's just you pay more for the name and I'm not a brand obsessive so would go for better performance for the money

You're comparing a bulky plastic laptop with a MacBook Pro?
And an 11" laptop with a 17" one?

It's an interesting perspective, I'll give you that.

prowla

Nada666 wrote: »

Nonsense. You have to read terms in context. And "PC" does not stand for "personal computer" - it stands for Wintel personal computer. Macintosh may now be *nixtel machines but there is no need to be silly over things.

Nonsense - PC stands for "personal computer", literally it does!, and that encompasses Windows, Linux, Chrome, and OS X based systems.

If you look at the history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer), there were a number of manufacturers of personal computers (ie. PCs), running diverse operating systems. At a point in time IBM decided to release theirs and called it the IBM PC and some time after a number of other manufacturers released IBM-compatible PCs. people have hooverised the term as a shorthand for "IBM-compatible PC", but at no point in time, however, has PC actually excluded other brands.

The term Wintel is commonly used to denote Windows/Intel computers, including servers & PCs.

As people who are aware of the history of computers may know, Apple made a decision some years back to switch chipset from a conflicting Motorola/IBM architecture to an IBM-compatible PC one, thereby aligning themselves with the dominant architecture.

At the point that was done, Apple hardware became a variation of the IBM-compatible PC, and has been able to run Windows.

Therefore, even if you do accept that "PC" really means "IBM-compatible" or "Wintel" systems, the Apple Mac is most certainly one.

The Mac is supplied with the OS X operating system, but you would be happy to accept a machine as a PC if it was supplied without an OS or with Linux, so what difference does the OS make?

So, in summary, even if you are ignorant of the meaning of the term "PC" and where it comes from, and you choose to limit it to mean an IBM-compatible PC, the Apple Mac is very much one of those.

It's being silly to say otherwise.

prowla

suicidebob wrote: »

You're comparing a bulky plastic laptop with a MacBook Pro?
And an 11" laptop with a 17" one?

It's an interesting perspective, I'll give you that.

That's the point; there is more to a computer than just the spec of the core components.

The Mac:

• has a better build quality (eg. the machined case versus a plastic one),
• typically is smaller and lighter than other equivalent brands,
• has great support (including free OS upgrades),
• has better display resolution (oops, that's spec),
• has a more coherent product range than any other manufacturer,
• is more stylish (if people will pay for a vase because it looks nice, why not have a computer which looks nice?),
• will also let you run Windows programs if you need to.

Simply looking at the core components shopping list is rather missing the point.

chanz4

prowla wrote: »

That's the point; there is more to a computer than just the spec of the core components.

The Mac:

• has a better build quality (eg. the machined case versus a plastic one),
• typically is smaller and lighter than other equivalent brands,
• has great support (including free OS upgrades),
• has better display resolution (oops, that's spec),
• has a more coherent product range than any other manufacturer,
• is more stylish (if people will pay for a vase because it looks nice, why not have a computer which looks nice?),
• will also let you run Windows programs if you need to.

Simply looking at the core components shopping list is rather missing the point.

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Nasqueron wrote: »

13"Macbook Pro £899
Intel Core i5 processor 2.5ghz
4gb RAM
500gb HD
Intel HD Graphics 4000

13 Alienware (dell) £899
Intel® Cor i5-4210U Processor 2.7ghz
8gb RAM
1TB HDD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 860M 2GB GDDR5

Same price but faster CPU, twice the ram, twice the storage and a fantastic GFX vs the generic one in the apple setup

11" macbook air £749
1.4GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor
Intel HD Graphics 5000
4GB memory

17" dell inspiron £749
3.1ghz i7-4510U
16gb RAM
1tb HD
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 750M 2GB DDR5

Would you like me to look up some more?

OP is on a Money SAVING website hence recommendation for a cheaper and/or better alternative than paying the premium for the name and getting a worse spec.

If you want to buy a shiny apple I am not saying not to, I did say the machine was decent, it's just you pay more for the name and I'm not a brand obsessive so would go for better performance for the money

You have not taken in account the 14 day Money back no questions asked guarantee, so you can take it away use it and if you don't like, return it it for all your money back who else does that.
Have you ever used their customer service, it is excellent, you cannot put a cost on these.
what about the no hard sell when you go into a store, of course you could go to Currys or PC World, then you get hard sell by someone who does not have a clue about the products, s*** customer service and don't even think about try at home & then return.