Thinking about getting a 2nd job

I am thinking about getting a 2nd job, to give me some financial security

I was wondering how I should go about getting another job, should I just take on another job part-time or should I go self-employed, or go with betterware or something of the like kind

Does anyone have any ideas or advice to help me here
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  • JReacher1
    JReacher1 Posts: 4,659 Forumite
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    Aren't you doing about 40-50 hours a week already? You don't want to overdo it.

    If you desperately want a part time job have you thought about dog walking? You can get around £10 an hour per dog (and you can walk multiple dogs per hour).

    People are weird about their pets and pay a fortune to make sure someone looks after them while they are at work.
  • I am currently working between 28 & 35 hours per week, so I think I can manage some more
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    The problem with any multilevel marketing is the hours required can be high due to overheads so unless the plan is to make this a longer term part of the income it can be very low ph pay to start with until you build up your network.

    I think for extra work looking for something that also provides additional benefits is a good idea.

    The dog walking idea has health benefits but often clashes with normal work patterns.

    Pub provides some social interactions and the busy times(fri,sat nights) fit well with mon-fri working.

    Supermarket - discount options.

    There are others look for something that compliments.

    You also may need to inform your current employer, check the T&Cs also you ned to be aware of the WTD limits that apply across all jobs
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    edited 1 December 2014 at 11:11AM
    JReacher1 wrote: »
    If you desperately want a part time job have you thought about dog walking? You can get around £10 an hour per dog (and you can walk multiple dogs per hour).

    People are weird about their pets and pay a fortune to make sure someone looks after them while they are at work
    .

    Ermmmmm - I am one of those "weird" people and have a dog walker so let me enlighten you.

    Yes, I pay £10.00 per hour for someone to walk my dog at lunchtime Mon-Fri while I am at work.

    No, I would not allow just anyone to walk my dog (and pay for it).

    My dog walker is CRB checked, insured, has Pet First Aid Certificate, drives an adapted vehicle, is a dog behaviourist, knows how to handle dogs/groups of dogs in all situations etc etc.

    Nobody I know from the people who use services of a dog walker would allow their pet to be looked after by some random stranger with no experience/references/back up.

    AS ti the dog walker's job and ho much money they make etc etc - what a nonsense.

    People using dog walkers use them mostly because they are at work themselves so need to break dog's day. That means most dog walkers only walk lunchtime as they are not needed at any other time of the day - owner takes the dog out morning and evening.

    Realistically 2 walks per day for a dog walker, 11-12 and 13-14 as dog walker needs to pick up dogs for the first walk then walk them for an hour then drop them off and pick up second lot and then drop the second lot off.

    So for those 2 walks (2 hours x 4 dogs for example = £80.00) real time spent working is probably 10am - 3pm (with pick ups drop offs).

    I guess you are thinking £80.00 for 5 hours is still great? Well, factor in use of car, insurance (car and dog walking business related), tax, NI (dog walkers are self employed), petrol, car maintenance (gets very dirty inside).

    Also factor walking out in ALL weather. And being reliable as dog walkers have clien's dogs on REGULAR slots and can not cancel at short notice when owner is at work. MUST be reliable and adapt to the dog owner if needed - not the other way round. You cannot wrap dog walking around another job.

    Also - it takes time to build up client base. References. Nobody will let some random stranger walk their dog and pay for it. Nope

    BIt fed up with this attitude "become a dog walker, easy money" as it is simply not true.
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    Ermmmmm - I am one of those "weird" people and have a dog walker so let me enlighten you.

    Yes, I pay £10.00 per hour for someone to walk my dog at lunchtime Mon-Fri while I am at work.

    No, I would not allow just anyone to walk my dog (and pay for it).

    My dog walker is CRB checked, insured, has Pet First Aid Certificate, drives an adapted vehicle, is a dog behaviourist, knows how to handle dogs/groups of dogs in all situations etc etc.

    Nobody I know from the people who use services of a dog walker would allow their pet to be looked after by some random stranger with no experience/references/back up.

    AS ti the dog walker's job and ho much money they make etc etc - what a nonsense.

    People using dog walkers use them mostly because they are at work themselves so need to break dog's day. That means most dog walkers only walk lunchtime as they are not needed at any other time of the day - owner takes the dog out morning and evening.

    Realistically 2 walks per day for a dog walker, 11-12 and 13-14 as dog walker needs to pick up dogs for the first walk then walk them for an hour then drop them off and pick up second lot and then drop the second lot off.

    So for those 2 walks (2 hours x 4 dogs for example = £80.00) real time spent working is probably 10am - 3pm (with pick ups drop offs).

    I guess you are thinking £80.00 for 5 hours is still great? Well, factor in use of car, insurance (car and dog walking business related), tax, NI (dog walkers are self employed), petrol, car maintenance (gets very dirty inside).

    Also factor walking out in ALL weather. And being reliable as dog walkers have clien's dogs on REGULAR slots and can not cancel at short notice when owner is at work. MUST be reliable and adapt to the dog owner if needed - not the other way round. You cannot wrap dog walking around another job.

    Also - it takes time to build up client base. References. Nobody will let some random stranger walk their dog and pay for it. Nope

    BIt fed up with this attitude "become a dog walker, easy money" as it is simply not true.

    I agree with this, I also have 2 dogs & I would not let some random stranger walk them, no thank you
  • JReacher1
    JReacher1 Posts: 4,659 Forumite
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    .

    Ermmmmm - I am one of those "weird" people and have a dog walker so let me enlighten you.

    Yes, I pay £10.00 per hour for someone to walk my dog at lunchtime Mon-Fri while I am at work.

    No, I would not allow just anyone to walk my dog (and pay for it).

    My dog walker is CRB checked, insured, has Pet First Aid Certificate, drives an adapted vehicle, is a dog behaviourist, knows how to handle dogs/groups of dogs in all situations etc etc.

    Nobody I know from the people who use services of a dog walker would allow their pet to be looked after by some random stranger with no experience/references/back up.

    AS ti the dog walker's job and ho much money they make etc etc - what a nonsense.

    People using dog walkers use them mostly because they are at work themselves so need to break dog's day. That means most dog walkers only walk lunchtime as they are not needed at any other time of the day - owner takes the dog out morning and evening.

    Realistically 2 walks per day for a dog walker, 11-12 and 13-14 as dog walker needs to pick up dogs for the first walk then walk them for an hour then drop them off and pick up second lot and then drop the second lot off.

    So for those 2 walks (2 hours x 4 dogs for example = £80.00) real time spent working is probably 10am - 3pm (with pick ups drop offs).

    I guess you are thinking £80.00 for 5 hours is still great? Well, factor in use of car, insurance (car and dog walking business related), tax, NI (dog walkers are self employed), petrol, car maintenance (gets very dirty inside).

    Also factor walking out in ALL weather. And being reliable as dog walkers have clien's dogs on REGULAR slots and can not cancel at short notice when owner is at work. MUST be reliable and adapt to the dog owner if needed - not the other way round. You cannot wrap dog walking around another job.

    Also - it takes time to build up client base. References. Nobody will let some random stranger walk their dog and pay for it. Nope

    BIt fed up with this attitude "become a dog walker, easy money" as it is simply not true.

    My friend is a dog walker and has a small business of 4 staff now who walk dogs during the day. They each walk 4/5 dogs an hour and walk about 20-25 dogs a day. So each make about £200 a day for 5 hours work (£50 goes to my friend for the franchise). It's a lot of walking and hard work but it's not a difficult career.

    There is easy money to be made in dog walking. It takes no real skills and anyone can do it.

    As for picking up business you just need to attach yourself to a local franchise or as my friend did to start out just buy a van and put an advert on the side.

    Dog walking is a relatively new thing that has taken advantage of the fact that people are a bit weird about their pets.

    Spending £50 a week to have your dog walked is almost the definition of burning money!
  • Hi, I understand your point but since you are willing to do so, the best extra job that you could have is trying to apply a part time online job. This will not require you so much of your time at the same time it would also increase your income.:)
  • What do you mean by a part-time online job, where can I find such a job
  • Aquamania
    Aquamania Posts: 2,112 Forumite
    What do you mean by a part-time online job, where can I find such a job

    Looking at the users other posts, I think she means things like spamming websites ;)
  • gettingready
    gettingready Posts: 11,330 Forumite
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    JReacher1 wrote: »
    My friend is a dog walker and has a small business of 4 staff now who walk dogs during the day. They each walk 4/5 dogs an hour and walk about 20-25 dogs a day.

    How do they walk 20-25 dogs per day when they take 4-5 dogs per hour and have to pick them up/drop them off - how would they do that in 5 hours? If they do, they cut on walking time and cheat paying owners. No other way.


    So each make about £200 a day for 5 hours work (£50 goes to my friend for the franchise).

    No way unless they are cheating on walking time.

    It's a lot of walking and hard work but it's not a difficult career.

    Have YOU tried to walk a pack of dogs in responsible manner? Dealt with possible fights (within a group or with dogs outside of the group but met on walks), recall issues when one dog runs away and you got 4-5 off lead dogs with you? Cut paws? Stick injuries?

    There is easy money to be made in dog walking. It takes no real skills and anyone can do it.


    Absolute utter nonsense.
    Read above.

    As for picking up business you just need to attach yourself to a local franchise or as my friend did to start out just buy a van and put an advert on the side.

    Dog walking is a relatively new thing that has taken advantage of the fact that people are a bit weird about their pets.

    Not weird. Responsible for a living creature they take on as a life long commitment (financial as well as wellbeing).

    There is no way under the sun I would ever let someone as you describe above walk my dog and there is no way they would survive/get clients among people I know who use dog walking services.

    And business operating the way you describe above - gives all the PROPER dog walkers a bad name.
    Spending £50 a week to have your dog walked is almost the definition of burning money!

    Sit down or you may get a hear attack. I spent about £700.00 per month on my dog and 4 cats.

    Comments in red above - what a total utter nonsense you are "stating" - clearly zero experience in this so please refrain from advising on the subject.
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