Can a NHS dentist just remove me from their list!?

JasonBat

Apollonia wrote: »

Really? REALLY?
You think your complaint can be compared to sexual assault?

JFC!!

(I'll be ignoring any more posts to this thread.)

Wow, bit sensitive! Is that common among dentists?

Have you heard the word 'analogy' before?

Why do I get the sense you are bitter because I didn't necessarily agree with you?

theoretica

JasonBat wrote: »

deceitful behaviour and carelessness

JasonBat wrote: »

... his unlawful discriminatory actions and fabrications
...his devious actions.

And you query that he says the relationship has broken down? That sounds pretty broken to me! You will probably think 'he broke it first' and maybe he did, or maybe he had good foresight.

welshdent

The gdc will investigate anything. That does not mean they are th best people to go to and that's part of the reason out registration fees are going through the roof. Investigation of any complaints you make will cost around 80k and maybe end up with no real answers to you and some conditions tto the dentist IF it is demonstrated they did something wrong. They May not have. If you follow the appropriate channels then you may actually get what you want and not waste a great deal of gdc money. Perhaps you don't care but I would like to think you do and just want a resolution to your case

JasonBat

theoretica wrote: »

And you query that he says the relationship has broken down? That sounds pretty broken to me! You will probably think 'he broke it first' and maybe he did, or maybe he had good foresight.

Yes that's for sure. I maintain my dentist took all the steps to well and truly break things down whilst pointing the finger at me.

In all honesty, if I had no protracted and complex dental issues I would have opted for some kind of sexual assault as this would certainly have made my life easier (let's say he was gay and grabbed my buttocks for example).

At the moment I have no dentist, I'm in debilitating pain at times. I struggle to sleep at night and feel constantly run down. I have been given further unnecessary obstacles to overcome such as having my dentist backtrack on issues he led me to believe therefore impeding my progress with my complaint against the consultant. I also don't know who I can trust at the moment particularly after my dentist's latest allegations.

JasonBat

welshdent wrote: »

The gdc will investigate anything. That does not mean they are the best people to go to and that's part of the reason out registration fees are going through the roof. Investigation of any complaints you make will cost around 80k and maybe end up with no real answers to you and some conditions to the dentist IF it is demonstrated they did something wrong. They may not have. If you follow the appropriate channels then you may actually get what you want and not waste a great deal of gdc money. Perhaps you don't care but I would like to think you do and just want a resolution to your case

I see - thanks. Why do they cost so much? That seems damn expensive. One would hope they do a good job at the end of it?

How do you suggest I approach matters then? Perhaps raising an NHS complaint is the way to go?

My reluctance with the NHS is that they seem a bit slapdash. I've actually had to raise a follow-up complaint regarding my consultant who appears to be refusing to respond to letters at the moment (I wonder why). Perhaps this is what scared off my dentist and has a lot to do with matters.

welshdent

The gdc have actually failed at their inspections but soldier on regardless. Labour made a lot of changes when they were in power and none for the better. Investigations usually go on for a few years and involve a lot of people hence spiralling costs. They are far from the body you think they are. A lot of people take vindictive false claims to them which "must" be investigated but nothing can come of it. Others think they will get compensation payments but they can't award them either. All they can do is sanction the dentist if they are deemed a risk to the public

JasonBat

welshdent wrote: »

The gdc have actually failed at their inspections but soldier on regardless. Labour made a lot of changes when they were in power and none for the better. Investigations usually go on for a few years and involve a lot of people hence spiralling costs. They are far from the body you think they are. A lot of people take vindictive false claims to them which "must" be investigated but nothing can come of it. Others think they will get compensation payments but they can't award them either. All they can do is sanction the dentist if they are deemed a risk to the public

I see. Presumably those are exceptional cases because if they took years and 80k to investigate my complaint then I would question their collective sanity?

Presumably they are themselves regulated?

welshdent

Exceptional? If only! There is a massive backlog of cases because they will absolutely investigate everything that comes in no matter how absurd the allegation. They are monitored but their own body can only make recommendations. They fell down on a few items but nothing has been done about it.

theoretica

JasonBat wrote: »

How do you suggest I approach matters then? Perhaps raising an NHS complaint is the way to go?

I suggest that you approach things from the point that really matters - which is your pain. Complaints about this dentist are not going to change him into someone who welcomes a challenging case and wants to discuss it - at the NHS's pay rates which pay for treatment and not later correspondance. Put your effort in to finding and attending a dentist who does, and ensuring what you say to them could never be said the wrong way.

And saying you would rather be assaulted than have a letter dropping you from the surgery's lists does make me think you speak in haste without thinking things through.

JasonBat

theoretica wrote: »

I suggest that you approach things from the point that really matters - which is your pain. Complaints about this dentist are not going to change him into someone who welcomes a challenging case and wants to discuss it - at the NHS's pay rates which pay for treatment and not later correspondence. Put your effort in to finding and attending a dentist who does, and ensuring what you say to them could never be said the wrong way.

I might be searching long and hard to no avail if that is the case. It seems dentists are very defensive these days which has already been discussed to some degree. I know what you mean though but don't see why I should have to walk on tenterhooks. Presumably one should be able to have an open conversation with your dentist without the fear of retribution?

theoretica wrote: »

And saying you would rather be assaulted than have a letter dropping you from the surgery's lists does make me think you speak in haste without thinking things through.

I think you are making more drama of this than was intended. In any event, do you not see the point I was making following on from Apollonia's comments? It goes well beyond simply being dropped from the practice. Where do you think the most prejudice lies in the two scenarios?