The Economics of Pessimistic Time Travelling Kippers

Steve_Perry_2

N1AK wrote: »

I'll answer the question, though I'm not sure I concur on the summarisation of my merits

No. I support it as things stand within the EU, and might as part of other agreements. I do so because I believe it is beneficial economically and in terms of international relations. If I thought it was damaging, and worth the cost of leaving the EU to get rid of it then I would support doing so.

Saying no might sound counter-intuitive given the sentences that follow, however I said no because I would not be in favour of global unrestricted movement of people to the UK at this time.

Indeed .However,if you look at it from a different point of view ,you could make an equally valid case in the fact that a relatively endless flow of cheap,available labour has allowed business to keep salaries low ,thus reducing tax revenues which in turn has a detrimental effect on the National deficit.

Ironically ,those who have advocated an economy based on premise of 'free Market economics'are the ones now shouting the loudest about restricting the movement of labour.

Sometimes you cannot have it both ways !

Conrad

Seems to me it's the Remoaners who are the pessimists, those hankering after yesterday's idea.

mayonnaise

CLAPTON wrote: »

-so you do/don't think that restriction on immigration is racist?
-you do/don't think that 100s of millions would wish to migrate if they were allowed to?
-notwithstanding any racist principles or the wishes of people, you see some practical problems with mass migration if it actually happened?
-you have no view on the desirability economically or socially about the continuing price in house prices in London and the SE?

Clappers hasn't changed a bit.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Seems to me it's the Remoaners who are the pessimists, those hankering after yesterday's idea.

Seems to me (despite being years into your new age of prosperity) it's you that's struggled with change. You don't like immigrants, you don't like health and safety, you don't like foreign food etc.

Like everyone else you're all for change as long as it's the change you want.

wotsthat

Is generali ever going to be un-PPR'ed.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Clappers hasn't changed a bit.

looks like I was ahead of the curve back then
whilst you knew very little then and have learnt nothing since.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

I know Halloween is coming up soon but this bringing threads back from the grave is disturbing.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

Seems to me (despite being years into your new age of prosperity) it's you that's struggled with change. You don't like immigrants, you don't like health and safety, you don't like foreign food etc.

Like everyone else you're all for change as long as it's the change you want.

My first marriage best Man is a Mulsim. My very good friend and neighbour is halve Chinese, halve Malay. I love people but I dislike some cultural traits, be they American or Pakistanni.

My mates and I adore a curry, any opportunity, and a constant source of rancour for our wives that love dragging us to ruddy British contemporary carp, when all we want is a hot curry n larger. I adore cooking when abroad, going to the local markets to choose produce. Not sure where you got your ideas.

Health n safety in a mature, measured, practical sense is good of course. A bit irksome in the hands of the over zealous, terrified of thier own shadow types.

Yes I like change, the one part you got right.

PS, your kids will consider well managed immigration utterly normal. They will wonder what an earth you were all het up a about

Conrad

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I know Halloween is coming up soon but this bringing threads back from the grave is disturbing.

I am looking forward to dragging out all the 'Britain is going to the dogs, we'll all be poorer, Brexit is a terrible mistake, you ought to be ashamed for voting for ignorance, and against the experts', stuff.

Where to start, lol!

You are usually a pretty confident capable bloke, positive and open minded, Im a little surprised you fell for the nutty fear stuff. I think u got a bit carried away with the experts, not recognising that a particular breed of expert are little more than yes men.
You will prosper.

Masomnia

It seems to me there's a comparison here with the other main development in UK politics since this thread was started, Corbyn. His supporters are similarly trying to wind the clock back and fight the battles of the past.