winter fuel payment

margaretclare

MABLE wrote: »

This certainly does not help people who need the money to help pay for their winter fuel and saying it is for anything but will only fuel the debate for getting it withdrawn. :mad:

I was very much against these 'vote-catchers', WFP, bus pass, at the time they were introduced, but I've mellowed over time. If the powers-that-be insist on sending it then I can probably find a good use for it, and I would guess that most people can. I have heard of WFP being used towards 'winter sun' holidays and even for buying grandchildren's Christmas presents!

The one thing I have some control over is the bus pass and I won't have one of those. WFP arrives without being asked for and as said before, 'every little helps'.

pollypenny

Our WFP is a very welcome contribution to the energy bill. However, we do not send it directly to npower , as we pay them by DD.

It pays for something else. Not a problem is it?

zygurat789

pollypenny wrote: »

Our WFP is a very welcome contribution to the energy bill. However, we do not send it directly to npower , as we pay them by DD.

It pays for something else. Not a problem is it?

Aparently it is. It's the same problem with any of these free money benefits, whereas there are some people who undoubtedly need them there are also those who do not and are able to spend the money on other things thus proving that the benefit, in their case, was unecessary.
Universal cash benefits are socialist, if not communist, redistribution of wealth; by all means support those in need but I cannot agree with giving money to everyone.
And, yes, I get WFP and I keep it to make up for not being able to receive all the others.

margaretclare

pollypenny wrote: »

Our WFP is a very welcome contribution to the energy bill. However, we do not send it directly to npower , as we pay them by DD

We too, and the cost of fuel is evened out over the year. I suppose there may still be people who buy extra fuel in autumn to see them over the winter. Depends what kind of heating you have.

Snowbird

margaretclare wrote: »

I have heard of WFP being used towards 'winter sun' holidays and even for buying grandchildren's Christmas presents!

Why are you bothered about what someone else does with their money? What is so wrong about "even" buying grandchildren's Christmas presents with it?
I was out for a meal a couple of nights ago with a group of people who call themselves "The Old F**ts club". They range in age from nearly 90 to the youngest who is a mere slip of a girl at 73!
I was invited this year as an honorary member as I had recommended some investments for a couple of them.
Every year, around about this time, they go out for a meal to spend some of their WFA.
One chap said he would spend the remainder of his on loose women and hard liquor!
They are a hoot. I was reminded that I was invited for one year only, so I must make the most of it!
Why does it matter what someone spends their money on?

mumps

zygurat789 wrote: »

Not my advice, I was just pointing to HMRC information. If this is incomplete I suggest you take it up with them and good luck to you with that.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM74012.htm

Quick look at HMRC and this seems to cover it
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM74012.htm. Probably a more specific one if I took another ten seconds.

mumps

zygurat789 wrote: »

Pensions are a social security benefit. Perhaps you should read EIM76100

My husbands pension is not a social security benefit.

mumps

Errata wrote: »

The HMRC tax situation for War Disablement Pensions is very clearly explained on the veterans-uk website. Veterans UK is part of the Ministry of Defence and administers the pensions.
Most, if not all, local authorites ignore the pension for those who need to claim HB and CTB.

I wondered about the HB and CTB benefit position. Wouldn't apply to us because of my income and when I eventually retire my pensions, state and private.

zygurat789

mumps wrote: »

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM74012.htm

Quick look at HMRC and this seems to cover it
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/eimanual/EIM74012.htm. Probably a more specific one if I took another ten seconds.

I have never disputed that your hisbands pension was not taxable, I have merely pointed out that it is not on HMRC's list which is aopparently incomplete. I was suggesting you contected them and get them to make their guidance complete. it is not my fault that they cannot include your husband's pension in a list of items which are not taxable.

zygurat789

mumps wrote: »

My husbands pension is not a social security benefit.

Your husband's pension is paid by the government, HMRC is an agency of that government, it chooses to call pensions a social security benefit as you will see if you read EIM76100.
I am only using the terminology of the provider of this income.
Why should your husband's pension not be a social security benefit when all other pensions are?