Moving bt openreach socket

richardw

For fibre broadband I'd like the socket moved from the bedroom to the living room, can this be surveyed and the practicality assessed before I sign up to a broad band provider?

LazyTyper

The Openreach engineer happily installed a new master socket in a different room for me. He just ran the cable along the skirting board and along the door frames.

The days of the managed FTTC install are numbered anyway. Soon it will be like normal broadband, where you just plug in a normal filter and VDSL (FTTC) router.

richardw

I'd like the cable routed in the hollow wall and ceiling void, this may be a bit non standard for Openreach.

cajef

An easier option may be to have it routed externally, when I had fibre installed the Openreach engineer ran an external cable from the existing point of entry to a new one at the other end of my property which is a bungalow.

brewerdave

@richardw -absolutely no way the BT Openreach man ,whether directly employed or contractor, will do what you want!!
Your best bet, is to have the socket/fibre modem in the bedroom-then get an independent contractor to run a cat 5 cable the route you want to the living room where you can site the rrouter.

peter999

What is fibre, is that the same as ADSL via telephone line ?

Is that different to virgin media cable broadband ?

kwikbreaks

The OP is talking about fibre from the phone exchange to the cabinet - FTTC. From the cabinet it's phone line. In a few places it is fibre right to the premises but not many right now - FTTP.

VM cable is fibre to a node (big street cabinet) then coax from there to your home usually via one or more smaller street cabinets.

The technologies are different. FTTC is similar to ADSL in as much as the last part of the path is over twisted pair wires. but with ADSL those wires go back to the phone exchange.

richardw

brewerdave wrote: »

@richardw -absolutely no way the BT Openreach man ,whether directly employed or contractor, will do what you want!!
Your best bet, is to have the socket/fibre modem in the bedroom-then get an independent contractor to run a cat 5 cable the route you want to the living room where you can site the rrouter.

Thanks, that's the clarification I was hoping for.

peter999

kwikbreaks wrote: »

The OP is talking about fibre from the phone exchange to the cabinet - FTTC. From the cabinet it's phone line. In a few places it is fibre right to the premises but not many right now - FTTP.

VM cable is fibre to a node (big street cabinet) then coax from there to your home usually via one or more smaller street cabinets.

The technologies are different. FTTC is similar to ADSL in as much as the last part of the path is over twisted pair wires. but with ADSL those wires go back to the phone exchange.

Do they use similiar or different modems ?

Do you get higher speeds and better performance ?

LazyTyper

peter999 wrote: »

Do they use similiar or different modems ?

Do you get higher speeds and better performance ?

The FTTC service uses VDSL2 instead of ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+.

And yes, because the distance to the serving cabinet is normally much shorter than to the exchange, much better speeds and reliability can be expected.

There are still only few routers with VDSL2 modem built in on the market. Currently Openreach install the modem and plug that into a dedicated Ethernet port on the customer's router. Although this is changing as some ISPs now provide the router with VDSL2 built in so the separate modem is no longer required.

peter999

LazyTyper wrote: »

The FTTC service uses VDSL2 instead of ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+.

And yes, because the distance to the serving cabinet is normally much shorter than to the exchange, much better speeds and reliability can be expected.

There are still only few routers with VDSL2 modem built in on the market. Currently Openreach install the modem and plug that into a dedicated Ethernet port on the customer's router. Although this is changing as some ISPs now provide the router with VDSL2 built in so the separate modem is no longer required.

What is this product marketed as, is this BT Infinity ?