Exceeds marked bay area - does it? (Pics)

bazster

We know the appeals service. They aren't interested in the circumstances. They even turned down an appeal by someone who parked in his own freehold parking space, they simply weren't interested in the fact that he was parked on his own property. But if he's said "the charge demanded does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss" they'd have nodded it through.

danielanthony

bazster wrote: »

We know the appeals service. They aren't interested in the circumstances. They even turned down an appeal by someone who parked in his own freehold parking space, they simply weren't interested in the fact that he was parked on his own property. But if he's said "the charge demanded does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss" they'd have nodded it through.

So the fact that cars have parked in all the spaces around my own car shows that they have not incurred any financial loss...

Coupon-mad

It's not about that.

A POPLA appeal v PPS can be won though, just not on the grounds you are suggesting. Have you looked at the PPC POPLA appeal examples of winning versions, linked in 'How to win at POPLA' in the Newbies sticky?

rdr

To be fair that is a bad and anti-social bit of parking, a cursory look shows that the back of your car takes up part of the two bays behind and the bay extends in front of your red line. You are not even straight. I would be tempted to report an abandoned car
If has all the hallmarks of an "I'm considerably more important than you" BMW driver.
If you appeal that on the basis that you were in the space you would be laughed out of court.

Quite what loss you caused on the other hand ...

danielanthony

Coupon-mad wrote: »

It's not about that.

A POPLA appeal v PPS can be won though, just not on the grounds you are suggesting. Have you looked at the PPC POPLA appeal examples of winning versions, linked in 'How to win at POPLA' in the Newbies sticky?

Yes, I'm about edit and email them the 1st stage appeal template; thanks for putting so much effort into it.

nigelbb

danielanthony wrote: »

1) My wheels are all within the marked bay area.

Au contraire. The front passenger side wheel is clearly on & even over the whit line. Such a 'crime' deserves a £100 fine in the mad world of PPCs.

danielanthony

nigelbb wrote: »

Au contraire. The front passenger side wheel is clearly on & even over the whit line. Such a 'crime' deserves a £100 fine in the mad world of PPCs.

But its about recovering their losses, which there are none, as cars are parked all around me.

The template also goes into more details about the actual legality of issuing such fines rather than the 'was my car over a line' argument.

DUTR

rdr wrote: »

To be fair that is a bad and anti-social bit of parking, a cursory look shows that the back of your car takes up part of the two bays behind and the bay extends in front of your red line. You are not even straight. I would be tempted to report an abandoned car
If has all the hallmarks of an "I'm considerably more important than you" BMW driver.
If you appeal that on the basis that you were in the space you would be laughed out of court.

Quite what loss you caused on the other hand ...

This is what I would call bad anti social parking



I doubt the owner keeper got any ticket or notice though.

bod1467

If you want to see examples of antisocial parking, see parkedlikeac-word.com (replace the obvious letters).

Glen_Clark

I am following this thread with interest, because I have a 22 foot van (which I use as a private vehicle having no other transport) and parking bays are generally 20 foot. I always get my wheels within the marked bay, but some overhang is unavoidable. I agree that unnecessary overhanging the next bay is inconsiderate and selfish, so I always choose a bay and position the van where this overhang will cause minimum inconvenience to others.
What I would like to know is can they give you a ticket in these circumstances?