Why the insistence....

gatita

Hi conradmum I totally agree with you, I think its a diabolical liberty this constant invasion in peoples private affairs. Soon we will be asked to notify the authorities when we change our underwear! Terrorism is just an excuse to get more information about people, and before anyone jumps down my throat asking me what I have to hide, the answer is absolutely NOTHING.

I have answered this post because of the condescending replies from some people make me SICK:mad:

conradmum

As far as I can see it's a perfectly valid question. Despite being unable to give a valid answer, the responders seem to feel it's okay to patronise!:rolleyes:

Yet it's true that I can sell on a domestic train/bus ticket without any extra cost, but not an airline ticket. Doesn't seem right to me.

GlennTheBaker

Blimey :eek:

dmg24

conradmum wrote: »

As far as I can see it's a perfectly valid question. Despite being unable to give a valid answer, the responders seem to feel it's okay to patronise!:rolleyes:

Yet it's true that I can sell on a domestic train/bus ticket without any extra cost, but not an airline ticket. Doesn't seem right to me.

So ask the people that set the rules!

My first post gave perfectly valid reasons for the rules. Not my problem if you choose not to believe me!

alared

We all hate the constant intrusion into our lives by busybodies with nothing better to do.
ID cards,new style passports all "big brother,1984" tactics with terrorism being the latest excuse.

But the fact of the matter is this and people seem perfectly happy to be constantly watched and monitored by the very gadget they seem unable to go anywhere without

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a mobile phone!

But getting back to booking an airline ticket.
When they ask for your name that matches your passport,so a ticket can be issued, most people will have this information to hand.
These are the T&C`s and if you don`t provide it

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no ticket,simple as that.
If you don`t know your own name off-hand,then consult the document that was issued when you were born.

conradmum

dmg24 wrote: »

So ask the people that set the rules!

My first post gave perfectly valid reasons for the rules. Not my problem if you choose not to believe me!

Err no. Your first post said that it was to stop people selling on cheap tickets at inflated prices. I pointed out that this requirement has existed long before there ever were discount tickets.
You also said it was to do security checks ahead of time on suspected terrorists. Given that you can walk into an airport, buy a ticket (in your name) and step onto a plane, this reason is invalid too.
So your first post didn't give any valid reasons.
I then also pointed out that even for domestic travelling we're required to give names for flights but nor ground transport.
A point which you've been unable to answer.
So it still stands that there is a disparity between the systems and it's a valid point.
But don't let that get in the way of trying to feel superior.:p

Altarf

conradmum wrote: »

Yet it's true that I can sell on a domestic train/bus ticket without any extra cost, but not an airline ticket. Doesn't seem right to me.

Actually you cannot. If you check the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section 6, you will see it says -

"6. You may not transfer a ticket to another person. A ticket may only be used by the person for whom it has been bought. It may not be resold or passed on to anyone else unless this is specifically allowed by the terms and conditions which apply to that ticket and which are set out in the notices and publications of the relevant Train Company."

conradmum

Altarf wrote: »

Actually you cannot. If you check the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section 6, you will see it says -

"6. You may not transfer a ticket to another person. A ticket may only be used by the person for whom it has been bought. It may not be resold or passed on to anyone else unless this is specifically allowed by the terms and conditions which apply to that ticket and which are set out in the notices and publications of the relevant Train Company."

Thanks for this.
Is there any explanation of why this is the case?

zappahey

conradmum wrote: »

Thanks for this.
Is there any explanation of why this is the case?

So that, if you have to cancel, you cannot sell your ticket to another traveller. Instead, two tickets will have been bought. It has not always been the case that names had to be supplied for airline tickets. At one time, you could stroll up to the ticket desk, buy a ticket with cash and walk straight on to the plane.

Security may be the ostensible reason for named tickets but I would suggest, from the perspective of the airline, the commercial imperative is just as strong.

Altarf

conradmum wrote: »

Thanks for this.
Is there any explanation of why this is the case?

Two reasons -

The first is revenue protection to prevent used tickets being resold, as unless a ticket has been clipped by a ticket inspector there is no indication it had been used.

The second is to try to deal with the blackmarket in Travelcards and other used tickets, used to fund drink & drugs.

As for the reason for names on air tickets but not train or bus, the anser is historic. Air travel was originally mainly international requiring passports, but train and bus was mainly domestic. Once something is in place, rarely is it changed unless there are very good or expensive reasons to do so. In this case the name requirement on air tickets is desired by both the airlines and governments, so it isn't going to change.

As for not requiring names on train tickets, you could argue that the vast majority of train tickets sold do have names on them, as they are season tickets or require an ID card, network card, young persons railcard, etc to be valid. With Oyster on the tubes and buses this number of 'named' tickets has been vastly increased.