Hit by wheelchair on escalator - culprit did a runner

FiremanDave

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Am I the only one who finds the concept of someone in a wheelchair "doing a runner" amusing?

I'd love to see the video of her going down the ramp :rotfl:

browneyedbazzi

FiremanDave wrote: »

Where is the gain by the "carer" or loss by the mother in law for the fraud act to apply?

It would be the mother's loss because the false details would hamper her attempts to pursue a civil action against the person who injured her.

FiremanDave

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

It would be the mother's loss because the false details would hamper her attempts to pursue a civil action against the person who injured her.

Money or property for the fraud act to apply, not a potential award from civil action.

You can't lose what you don't have.

browneyedbazzi

Sorry Dave, you're wrong....No actual money has to change hands to prove a fraud offence and lying in order to avoid a civil action (and therefore depriving the claimant of an award) would be sufficient. You are trying to apply an overly narrow interpretation to the legislation.

FiremanDave

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

Sorry Dave, you're wrong....No actual money has to change hands to prove a fraud offence and lying in order to avoid a civil action (and therefore depriving the claimant of an award) would be sufficient. You are trying to apply an overly narrow interpretation to the legislation.

Convince me I am with a stated case then.

You've yet to provide even a link to the legislation covering the part of the act you keep quoting.

There is no money or property involved her as the mother in law is not guaranteed any award.

wealdroam

FiremanDave wrote: »

Convince me I am with a stated case then.

You've yet to provide even a link to the legislation covering the part of the act you keep quoting.

There is no money or property involved her as the mother in law is not guaranteed any award.

Do try and keep up Dave.

The OP suggested that giving false details would not be an offence:

tommyjj wrote: »

...even if they do stop to give details, how can you be sure they're genuine - since giving false details is not an offence

BEB then explained:

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

Giving false details would be an offence. You can't force a person to give you their details but if they give you false information in a situation where you may need the information to pursue them for losses then that would be an offence under the Fraud Act.

And Dave, a link to the legislation was provided in post#63:

browneyedbazzi wrote: »

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2

mttylad

What you need is a stakeout at the supermarket, camp at the top of the escalator inside a pile of toilet paper and tins of beans whilst waiting for them to re appear.

They are likely to at some point.

phill99

"Hit by wheelchair on escalator - culprit did a runner"

No they didn't. They did a wheeler!

whitelabel

civil action would be against the care company, they are vicariously liable for the actions of their employees in the course of the their duties, albeit with some limitations eg if they were blow up a building for example while wearing the unifom, company not liable as not part of their job role,(unless that role is as a demolition engineer)