Interesting article!

Gloomendoom

JustinR1979 wrote: »

I expect an engine for the V10 M5 would be more than a new average priced car.
I know the V8 M5 was most advanced car engine when it made it's debut, but was nowhere near as highly strung as the V10

All the cars they mention are pretty rare. I wonder just how much money they really have had to pay out on them.

Mind you, based on experience with a Renault Clio, paying out at all is pretty rare for them.

Oldfatgrumpy

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

I'm just worried to see the term 'Axle' used in description against a car not built in 1927.

I'm fairly sure that my 1960 Ford Popular had an axle. It took very little effort to get it onto two wheels round corners, and in my first days of ownership I took off backwards from traffic lights several times before I got used to the gear change layout.

oldagetraveller

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

I'm just worried to see the term 'Axle' used in description against a car not built in 1927.

I suspect you need to read up on what an axle is.

"axle (ˈæksəl) n1. (Mechanical Engineering) a bar or shaft on which a wheel, pair of wheels, or other rotating member revolves

[C17: from Old Norse öxull; related to German Achse; see axis1]"

My 2014 Toyota Yaris has a rear axle (by definition) onto which both wheels are afixed to and rotate at each end.

BeenThroughItAll

oldagetraveller wrote: »

I suspect you need to read up on what an axle is.

"axle (ˈæksəl) n1. (Mechanical Engineering) a bar or shaft on which a wheel, pair of wheels, or other rotating member revolves

[C17: from Old Norse öxull; related to German Achse; see axis1]"

My 2014 Toyota Yaris has a rear axle (by definition) onto which both wheels are afixed to and rotate at each end.

Well, you suspect wrong, I'm well aware that my car has four stub axles, and that my old Mamod steam engine has two solid axles. My Morris Traveller had a live rear axle, and the watch on my wrist has a number of axles upon which the gears inside rotate.

I'll not bother with any more tongue-in-cheek posts. I was trying to point out that the terminology being used in the article in question was somewhat simplistic.

Gloomendoom

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

Well, you suspect wrong, I'm well aware that my car has four stub axles, and that my old Mamod steam engine has two solid axles. My Morris Traveller had a live rear axle, and the watch on my wrist has a number of axles upon which the gears inside rotate.

I'll not bother with any more tongue-in-cheek posts. I was trying to point out that the terminology being used in the article in question was somewhat simplistic.

I'm sure BMW used to fit "Z Axles" to the rear of their cars. They may still do. The Rover 75 had one too.



Axle is still widely used in the motor industry to describe the assembly of components that essentially do the same job as an old cart axle.

colino

The only one that sticks out from that list is the Multipla. Don't remember them having anything outrageously innovative (i.e., tech doesn't know about it so throws expensive parts at it) to get it high on the list.
The rest are the result of mechanical things, not surprisingly, going wrong, coupled to some of the issues being very expensive to put right when they inevitably go wrong, plus expectations of the owners.
"M" owners tend to be interested in their cars and shell out a lot to keep them in fine fettle, so make a noise, long and loud when anything goes wrong with them. The other end of the scale would be, historically, things like Skoda owners, originally buying on price and on the "proof" of quality when they won their class, year after year in the RAC rally. Realistically owners of those awful 105s were happy they could afford a new plate and grateful the car went at all, so wouldn't be lining up to complain and make such lists.

Joe_Horner

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

[...]and the watch on my wrist has a number of axles upon which the gears inside rotate.
.

Except that they're arbors and wheels (big gears) / pinions (small gears) in a clock or watch