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Stay or go? EU poll - Oh the irony.

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  • danothy
    danothy Posts: 2,200 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Bantex wrote: »
    I believe it should be the responsibilty of a government to put the interests and wishes of it's own people (citizens) first. If that involves controlling borders, so be it.

    Is citizenship synonymous with birthright in your mind?
    If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    danothy wrote: »
    I think it is racist to want to be able to tell other people they can't live somewhere because they weren't born there. Unless you support depatriation of people born in the UK who possess the same exclusion criteria you would have for potential immigrants? Is that the case?

    What a nonsense.

    People need to open their eyes.

    We have people living in appalling conditions in camps around Calais, trying to get to the UK, but barred from entry based SOLELY on the fact that they were born somewhere other than the EU.

    And we keep banging the racist drum towards anyone who believes that the same standard should be applied to ALL? REGARDLESS of where they come from?

    Total and utter nonsense. Those continually shouting racists at anyone who wants to see controlled immigration applied to EVERYONE really need to stop and think about what they are saying here at a time of crisis in Calais.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    You have spent months telling Scottish Nationalists that their wanting to separate from the UK is a sign of their innate racism yet apparently your lot wanting to separate from Europe is completely different.

    I dont want to live with Scottish nationalists or English ones. I like getting on a plane and having access to dozens of countries and the freedom to work and do business wherever I want.

    I dont want the likes of you and Graham mucking it up for me.
    Surely it is them countries that would be stopping you, just because UK put up borders that is no reason for other countries to as long as they believe it is for their own benefit.
  • Voyager2002
    Voyager2002 Posts: 16,349 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    When it's your job at risk you may change your tune. ;)

    I am happy to compete with anyone... I am also happy to work anywhere in the world that offers me opportunities. That is one of the great advantages of the EU...

    Another is my excellent Polish dentist.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    I am happy to compete with anyone... I am also happy to work anywhere in the world that offers me opportunities. That is one of the great advantages of the EU...

    Another is my excellent Polish dentist.
    Even if competing means dropping your earnings?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Bantex wrote: »
    I do find it rather odd when an Australian (European decent) claims that it is not a racist country when you look at the state of the aborignal population and how they have been and still are treated.

    How is that remotely to do with the topic in hand?

    We are discussing Europe, not Australia nor colonialism.
  • danothy
    danothy Posts: 2,200 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 5 November 2014 at 12:13PM
    Bantex wrote: »
    Even if competing means dropping your earnings?

    Is competing synonymous with losing in your mind?
    If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    danothy wrote: »
    Is competing synonymous with loosing in your mind?
    Not always but quite often for those at the lower end of the pile.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    What a nonsense.

    People need to open their eyes.

    We have people living in appalling conditions in camps around Calais, trying to get to the UK, but barred from entry based SOLELY on the fact that they were born somewhere other than the EU.

    And we keep banging the racist drum towards anyone who believes that the same standard should be applied to ALL? REGARDLESS of where they come from?

    Total and utter nonsense. Those continually shouting racists at anyone who wants to see controlled immigration applied to EVERYONE really need to stop and think about what they are saying here at a time of crisis in Calais.
    What a nonsense.
    Selective immigration policies are applied all over the world. If e.g. you go to Vietnam, you'll need a visa. Citizens of neighbouring countries like Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia...etc...don't need a visa to enter Vietnam. Are you going to call their visa policy racist? Get a clue, man.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    How is that remotely to do with the topic in hand?

    We are discussing Europe, not Australia nor colonialism.

    Possibly on a basis of get your own house in order before telling others where they are wrong?
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