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Stay or go? EU poll - Oh the irony.
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Both Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World are about sexually repressed incompetents who make poor decisions. Nothing about the social constructs in those books should be considered intelligent, plausible or prophetic. I recommend considering reality, not fiction, when making important judgements.
why not answer the question rather than making false references.
What exactly is 'harmonisation' of the human race?0 -
The UK put in a lot more than we take out. Why?
No we don't.
The financial benefits to UK businesses of EU membership are immense, and so the total costs to society of membership are far outweighed by what we get in return.
http://www.euractiv.com/uk-europe/british-business-benefits-greatl-analysis-531518It is clear to us that the benefits of EU membership to British business significantly outweigh the costs.
Three-quarters of CBI members – of all sizes and sectors – say that the creation of the 500 million strong Single Market has had a positive impact on their business, not to mention the investment this brings from around the world and its contribution to making the UK the world’s leading financial centre.
Furthermore, having signed free trade deals with nearly 50 partners, giving the UK access to £15 trillion worth of markets, the EU is now working towards opening up developed and emerging markets which would double that.
All this has directly boosted the living standards of UK citizens, with our research suggesting that the average individual is around £1,225 better off every year from EU membership.
You could argue that many of those benefits would also be the case with a free trade agreement, but that would give us almost all of the compliance costs with no influence on setting the rules.
Norway, for example, pays as much on a per capita basis for the free trade agreement as we do for full EU membership, but does not have any input to the rule setting.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/01/15/don-t-quit-like-we-did-norwegian-pm-gives-britain-an-eu-warnThe prime minister of Norway has warned Britain not to go down the road followed by her country and quit the EU, in a remarkable statement ahead of a meeting with David Cameron.
Erna Solberg, who is coming to the UK for the first since she became prime minister last year, said staying out of the EU but within the single market gave her country even less chance to set the rules.
Solberg suggested the picture in her country is far less rosy than is sometimes suggested.
"I think those in the British debate who look at Norway's association underestimate how closely connected we actually are with many of the laws and rules they are annoyed with," she said.
Norway held its referendum on EU membership in 1994, when it opted to stay out but remain part of the European Economic Area (EEA).
That gave it access to the single market but also meant it had to subscribe to its regulations – without having a say in their formulation.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No we don't.
The financial benefits to UK businesses of EU membership are immense, and so the total costs to society of membership are far outweighed by what we get in return.
http://www.euractiv.com/uk-europe/british-business-benefits-greatl-analysis-531518
You could argue that many of those benefits would also be the case with a free trade agreement, but that would give us almost all of the compliance costs with no influence on setting the rules.
Norway, for example, pays as much on a per capita basis for the free trade agreement as we do for full EU membership, but does not have any input to the rule setting.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/01/15/don-t-quit-like-we-did-norwegian-pm-gives-britain-an-eu-warn
are the CBI people the same people that thought that joining the EURO was absolutely vital for the UK?0 -
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why not answer the question
Because I am not interested in paying for your education with my time.Thrugelmir wrote: »You don't unite people by taking away their voice or their choice.
I quite agree.If you think of it as 'us' verses 'them', then it's probably your side that are the villains.0 -
We are a net contributor.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »No we don't.
The financial benefits to UK businesses of EU membership are immense, and so the total costs to society of membership are far outweighed by what we get in return.
http://www.euractiv.com/uk-europe/british-business-benefits-greatl-analysis-531518
You could argue that many of those benefits would also be the case with a free trade agreement, but that would give us almost all of the compliance costs with no influence on setting the rules.
Norway, for example, pays as much on a per capita basis for the free trade agreement as we do for full EU membership, but does not have any input to the rule setting.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/01/15/don-t-quit-like-we-did-norwegian-pm-gives-britain-an-eu-warn0 -
We are a net contributor.
No we are not.
We get back far more from EU membership than we put in, in totality.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
are the CBI people the same people that
The CBI is the voice of British business.
The CBI also note that a significant majority of small and medium sized businesses agree with their stance on Europe.
The Eurosceptics frequently cite Norway as an example of what we should be doing.
The Prime Minister of Norway has spelled out why that would be a very bad idea.
Can you reply to the points made or will you continue to attack the sources in an effort to avoid doing so?
And while we're on this topic.....
Businesses say that staying in the EU is vital to our economic performance and employment prospects, Academics and Economists say that staying in the EU improves wages on average and does not increase unemployment, and the majority of people in the UK want to remain in the EU.....
So what exactly is it that you dislike so much???
Surely when something is good for business, good for employment, good for wages, good for the economy, and good for the majority, it is the right thing for society?“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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