How not to join a motorway!

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Read the telegraph article. It said it was flipped on its side

silverwhistle

In sailing terms the lorry was the 'stand on' vessel, and in addition 'restricted in its ability to manoeuvre'. The lorry's responsibility is to act predictably, not increase or decrease speed, and let the nimbler car adjust their couse. It's this predictability that should make it easier for other vehicles.

reeac

silverwhistle wrote: »

In sailing terms the lorry was the 'stand on' vessel, and in addition 'restricted in its ability to manoeuvre'. The lorry's responsibility is to act predictably, not increase or decrease speed, and let the nimbler car adjust their couse. It's this predictability that should make it easier for other vehicles.

Nevertheless the Collision Regulations [for ships] require the stand on vessel to take avoiding action if a collision looks inevitable. A slight slowing by the lorry would have created the necessary 2-3 metres gap without causing chaos behind.

tbourner

reeac wrote: »

A slight slowing by the lorry would have created the necessary 2-3 metres gap without causing chaos behind.

Unless the car was slowing to pull in behind it.

JustinR1979

tbourner wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6IXQoYY58

A load of braking power, and a load of weight pushing a load of tyre into the road!
See how I wonder how the tread stays on?!
My car wouldn't pull up that quick, not a chance.

JustinR1979

tbourner wrote: »

Unless the car was slowing to pull in behind it.

Years ago on the A3 we overtook a car mincing along, then slowed for the 40 where it was going down to 1 lane.
Obviously nobhead then pulled out and sat alongside us on approach to the cones.
Workmate kept slowing to let him in, each time car slowed too.
We all ended up stopped.
Throughout this I was saying keep going, he shouldn't be there.....


Funnily enough there was a complaint that we were on the pavement and nearly hit a woman and child in a pram.
No pavements or pedestrians on that stretch, go figure.

londonTiger

by all counts the car is at fault, but whenever I am in lane 1 and there is adjoining traffic, I move over to lane 2 if there is a joining vehicle neck a neck to me and there is space in lane 2 for me to move to.

For lorries it's not always possible to shift speed or move to lane 2. Add to that they are doing 4 hr long shifts all week and all month so they shouldn't be required to accomodate joiners.


Btw, !!!!!! was the driver thinking, ok car lorry isn't dropping back, maybe if I force my way in and play chicken it will drop back.. Nope - didn't even see the car.

Captaincodpiece

londonTiger wrote: »

by all counts the car is at fault, but whenever I am in lane 1 and there is adjoining traffic, I move over to lane 2 if there is a joining vehicle neck a neck to me and there is space in lane 2 for me to move to.

For lorries it's not always possible to shift speed or move to lane 2. Add to that they are doing 4 hr long shifts all week and all month so they shouldn't be required to accomodate joiners.


Btw, !!!!!! was the driver thinking, ok car lorry isn't dropping back, maybe if I force my way in and play chicken it will drop back.. Nope - didn't even see the car.

You sir are a true gent. ��

Do you know where any of these jobs with 4 hour shifts are? I fancy those hours.

londonTiger

Captaincodpiece wrote: »

You sir are a true gent. ��

Do you know where any of these jobs with 4 hour shifts are? I fancy those hours.

I think it's 4 hours, 4 hrs on, 4 hours off for 12 hour working day. Actually not very great if you think about it, because you need to stop at a lay by or services for 4 hours doing nothing when you could be delivering your stuff and finishing your job.

Not 4 hours a day.

JustinR1979

londonTiger wrote: »

I think it's 4 hours, 4 hrs on, 4 hours off for 12 hour working day.

Not 4 hours a day.

4.5 hours then 45 minute break.
Or 15 and 30 during that time in that order.
9 hours driving a day extended to 10 two days a week I think.
Then there's rest periods etc, so you can have long days and be at work many hours a week.