Attandace Allowance

Pollycat

margaretclare wrote: »

I still don't understand. Maybe I'm getting 'dimentia' (sic) or maybe I'm just thick.

I understand Pollycat's explanation and it sounds perfectly reasonable and understandable. A separate bank account had to be set up and used for that purpose only. The money didn't go into Pollycat's own account.

OP, are you saying that the appointee receives AA into his/her own account?

I still don't understand either, margaretclare.

OP - you've been given this advice several times:

Mojisola wrote: »

If you're concerned, contact the social workers or www.elderabuse.org.uk/ for advice.

amibovvered

I'm hesitating to shout troll on this but OP simply keeps repeating the same confusing statements without answering a single question. Just doesn't make sense to me.

OP, what relationship (if any) do you have to the 'dementia person'? Are you seeking to help them or just to get the appointee into trouble? As others have said, if you really are concerned then contact Social Services or use the elder abuse link provided. Otherwise, stop posting. It's annoying trying to help someone who isn't listening!

ETA - just had a quick look at some of the OP's previous posts and they are far more coherent than the ones on this thread - very odd?

margaretclare

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is confused by this.

As the AgeUK site makes clear, AA can be used for anything, by the person who receives it. DH, for instance, uses his towards car costs, to stay mobile and avoid becoming housebound.

A person with dementia, though, as Pollycat explains very clearly, needs someone else to take on the responsibility of receiving the money and deciding what to do with it. That, to me, seems a very heavy responsibility indeed and capable of misuse.

Pollycat

margaretclare wrote: »

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is confused by this.

As the AgeUK site makes clear, AA can be used for anything, by the person who receives it. DH, for instance, uses his towards car costs, to stay mobile and avoid becoming housebound.

A person with dementia, though, as Pollycat explains very clearly, needs someone else to take on the responsibility of receiving the money and deciding what to do with it. That, to me, seems a very heavy responsibility indeed and capable of misuse.

Indeed it was a heavy responsibility, margaretclare, but I was the only one willing to do it and I had helped and advised my parents about money for quite a few years (before Dad was diagnosed with dementia) after they sold their small terraced house and moved into a council warden controlled flat so it was sort-of expected that I'd do it.

I did account for every penny spent though.

Re the OP
I don't think he/she is a troll but if they want any sensible advice they need to take a step back and compose a coherent account of what is happening with this person's Attendance Allowance, taking into account the questions already asked (but not answered) and the points already made.

Blackpool_Saver

As usual, circumstances unclear and not explained properly. Impossible to give an opinion without full clarification of the facts

FBaby

Cliaming AA on behalf of dementia person(not carers allownce), Dementia person unaware of this.

You don't get it. THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE! So either you are confused and misunderstand what they are claiming, or you are saying they are fraudulently provided wrong detailed information to make the claim.

pmlindyloo

FBaby wrote: »

You don't get it. THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE! So either you are confused and misunderstand what they are claiming, or you are saying they are fraudulently provided wrong detailed information to make the claim.

Actually if someone is incapable of claiming AA themselves (through a physical and/or mental disability then someone else can claim it on their behalf)

There is a part of the application form that allows for this scenario.

The confusion from the poster is that they haven't said whether the money goes into the appointee's bank account or whether it is the claimant's account and the appointee administers it.

Or perhaps that's what you were referring to?

Also as an appointee they receive the benefit on behalf of the claimant and then administer the benefit.

https://www.gov.uk/become-appointee-for-someone-claiming-benefits

FBaby

Or perhaps that's what you were referring to?

It was but OP keeps insinuating that the appointee is claiming for their own self on the basis that they care for the patient, which clearly is not possible.

susancs

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

As usual, circumstances unclear and not explained properly. Impossible to give an opinion without full clarification of the facts

I agree with you. I wonder if OP is talking about a court appointed Guardian (appointee)? In our family, sadly there have been family members who have developed dementia and not been competent to make care and financial decisions. The Court of Protection had to appoint a Guardian (family member in our families case) and issued sealed orders that were were used to set up a separate Guardianship bank account fo any money to be transfered into. To get any Dept of Work and Pensions payments paid into a Guardianship bank account, the DWP required a sealed court of protection order to be given to them for their records, before setting this up. This bank account was then adminstered by the Guardian to pay the dementia suffers bills. They also made care decisions such as employing carers, choosing care home ect. If the house was to be sold, then the court had to order this and the money was held by the court in their bank accountand applied for as required by the Guardian to top up bank account funds in advance.

An annual statment of accounts had to be prepared and sent into the Office of Public Guardianship OPG) to show what the money from the bank account was spent on. The OPG did random inspections to check on the person with dementia and to check on all receipts for services paid to ensure they were used for the dementia sufferers benefit. If the Guardian was not claiming attendance allowance they would be advised to do so by the OPG.

It is possible that OP, does not realise that the attendance allowance is used for the dementia suffers benefit. In my experience the person with dementia may well not be competent enough to understand that their legal guardian has claimed attendance allowance on their behalf and that this used for their benefit.

GobbledyGook

FBaby wrote: »

It was but OP keeps insinuating that the appointee is claiming for their own self on the basis that they care for the patient, which clearly is not possible.

it depends entirely what the money is used for.

I was my grandfather's appointee (my Nana didn't feel up to it) despite living 300 miles away.

OP - what is the money used for? That is the issue.

I used Grandad's for meals on wheels, a contribution to paying for his care and for sending their laundry to be done. I received the money and I didn't live near him, but every penny was used for his benefit.