Attandace Allowance

margaretclare

page1 wrote: »

Appointee also claimed carers allowance but was taken away due not meeting the criteria. But contiuned cliaming AA (dementia person is unaware of this).

Dementia person has carers in place paid thru direct payment.

Appointee keeps AA.

This sounds completely wrong. The person suffering from dementia should be receiving AA and no one else. It is paid into that person's bank account. Obviously carer's allowance is completely different and it is dependent on the set amount of hours' care being given. As the AgeUK site quoted makes clear, AA is paid to the individual whether they are receiving care or not.

It sounds like some financial mismanagement, or even financial elderly abuse. I would agree with others - it should be reported.

McKneff

You are getting the two benefits mixed up.


A person with dementia would claim AA (attendance allowance)


An appointee would claim CA (carers allowance.)

page1

McKneff wrote: »

You are getting the two benefits mixed up.


A person with dementia would claim AA (attendance allowance)


An appointee would claim CA (carers allowance.)

If you cliam carers allowance are you not suppost spend at least 35 hours a week caring?

Morglin

Yes, you are - but as you said the appointee had lost the Carers Allowance, it's not really relevant.

An appointee just takes responsibility for benefits etc.,

An LPA (Lasting Power of Attorney) takes responsibility for much more.

Lin

Pollycat

Re appointee mentioned by the OP:

I was made appointee for my Dad who also had dementia.

I met with someone from DWP, who also saw my Dad at the care home (and quickly assessed him unfit to manage his affairs) and I was told I would have to set up a bank account in my name and they then paid all his benefits - he was in receipt of state pension, mobility (as it was then) and pension credit as a joint claim with my Mum - so all of those were paid into my account.
I was then responsible for paying Dad's care home fees (he was self-funding) out of the amount in that account.
Re joint pension credit - she did a claim in my Dad's name and I had to help Mum put a claim in for pension credit in her name.

So maybe the OP is talking about this scenario.

OP - your posts are quite confusing. Can you have a rethink and put everything that you know to be happening down again.

FBaby

I expect the appointee is looking after the patient's AA, and as such can use the money as they consider best for the patient. It sounds like you interpreted this as them getting the money themselves, confusing it for carer's allowance, hence you thinking they should be providing 35 hours care for it.

The scenario where fraud could be taking place is if the appointee is getting the AA in the patient's name into their account and you can prove it is being used for their own interest rather than the patient's.

page1

Pollycat wrote: »

Re appointee mentioned by the OP:

I was made appointee for my Dad who also had dementia.

I met with someone from DWP, who also saw my Dad at the care home (and quickly assessed him unfit to manage his affairs) and I was told I would have to set up a bank account in my name and they then paid all his benefits - he was in receipt of state pension, mobility (as it was then) and pension credit as a joint claim with my Mum - so all of those were paid into my account.
I was then responsible for paying Dad's care home fees (he was self-funding) out of the amount in that account.
Re joint pension credit - she did a claim in my Dad's name and I had to help Mum put a claim in for pension credit in her name.

So maybe the OP is talking about this scenario.

OP - your posts are quite confusing. Can you have a rethink and put everything that you know to be happening down again.

Appointee lives 135 miles away, attends to person's needs every 2-3 weeks.

Cliaming AA on behalf of dementia person(not carers allownce), Dementia person unaware of this.

Dimentia patient has carers in place paid thru direct payment

Mojisola

Mojisola wrote: »

If you're concerned, contact the social workers or https://www.elderabuse.org.uk/ for advice.

As above..............

margaretclare

page1 wrote: »

Appointee lives 135 miles away, attends to person's needs every 2-3 weeks.

Cliaming AA on behalf of dementia person(not carers allownce), Dementia person unaware of this.

Dimentia patient has carers in place paid thru direct payment

I still don't understand. Maybe I'm getting 'dimentia' (sic) or maybe I'm just thick.

I understand Pollycat's explanation and it sounds perfectly reasonable and understandable. A separate bank account had to be set up and used for that purpose only. The money didn't go into Pollycat's own account.

OP, are you saying that the appointee receives AA into his/her own account?

Aunty-Pickle

It depends what the appointee is using the AA for. They should not be using to pay themselves for their own travel expenses or time etc. However, if they are managing it for the benefit of the person who has dementia because they are incapable - so buying the person food, paying bills, buying any medication/medical aids that's not through prescription etc then I would consider that acceptable.