Yosemite - thoughts?

securityguy

Big_Graeme wrote: »

Its had a tart up but that is about all I can find different, what are the whizz bang features that will make me want to upgrade a whole lab of iMacs?

Probably nothing until at some point in the future an app you need is 10.10 only. That's not likely to be very long, as JXA looks like a really nice way to script small applications. Applescript is, one hopes, going to be deprecated soon.

thescouselander

I was a bit apprehensive about Yosemite after the iOS 8 fiasco but I've just installed it and it seems really good. The look of the desktop is much more modern which is about time because the old OS X was starting to look really dated. Everything seems to work as it should too which is a bonus.

prowla

Big_Graeme wrote: »

Its had a tart up but that is about all I can find different, what are the whizz bang features that will make me want to upgrade a whole lab of iMacs?

There seems to be some better integration with phones and tablets.

I think a lot of things are just subtle usability tweaks which you may not even notice you are using.

thescouselander wrote: »

I was a bit apprehensive about Yosemite after the iOS 8 fiasco but I've just installed it and it seems really good. The look of the desktop is much more modern which is about time because the old OS X was starting to look really dated. Everything seems to work as it should too which is a bonus.

Hmmm - I'm not sure about the use of the word "modern"; if I didn't know them and was presented with the two versions of OS X side by side, would I be able to say which was more "modern"?

Big_Graeme

prowla wrote: »

There seems to be some better integration with phones and tablets.

I think a lot of things are just subtle usability tweaks which you may not even notice you are using.

Cool, I loaded it on to a test machine on Friday and didn't have a chance to have a test beyond looking at the GUI. I'll let everyone else iron out the bugs before I let students loose on it.

thescouselander

prowla wrote: »

There seems to be some better integration with phones and tablets.

I think a lot of things are just subtle usability tweaks which you may not even notice you are using.

Hmmm - I'm not sure about the use of the word "modern"; if I didn't know them and was presented with the two versions of OS X side by side, would I be able to say which was more "modern"?

Fair enough, not everyone likes the latest minimalism trend. The Yosemite layout is undoubtedly in line with current GUI design approaches though so I'd argue it is clearly the more modern interface even if it's not to your taste.

prowla

thescouselander wrote: »

Fair enough, not everyone likes the latest minimalism trend. The Yosemite layout is undoubtedly in line with current GUI design approaches though so I'd argue it is clearly the more modern interface even if it's not to your taste.

I'm not saying I don't like it, rather that I don't agree with the use of the term "modern" (in the sense that it is better because it is newer).

When you say current GUI design approaches, which do you mean? Of the flattening trend, I've seen IOS (which I think is really good), Windows 8 (which I think is really awful on PC and phone, but might work on tablets), and OS X (which I think is quite good). Sure Apple and Microsoft are the market leaders, but is there anybody else flattening things?

RobTang

prowla wrote: »

Hmmm - I'm not sure about the use of the word "modern"; if I didn't know them and was presented with the two versions of OS X side by side, would I be able to say which was more "modern"?

Of course it depends on your definition of the word modern as it tends to be overarching, but if you know current trends; designs tends to more minimalistic designs.
Alternatively you can draw comparisons with modernism which usually is a rejection of "classical" designs, which like architecture tends to be complicated and extravagant so the modern design would be the simpler one.
If your just going on your own opinion adjectives can mean whatever you want however.


As for Yosemite; its alright. It doesn't feel like an OS upgrade, more like when you redecorate a room.
For me it just a UI refresh and a refresh of the standard Apple apps.
New stuff is mainly iOS / iCloud integration, which tbh I think ill only use the safari tab sharing, I prefer Apple's iClould user login to Microsoft's windows account login because there seems to be a greater separation between the online account and the local account (although not by much)


I think the transparent tree views are kinda weird and it hasn't solved the jerky UI that mavericks introduced on my MacBook Retina which frankly it should be able to handle, So I think I might need to-do a clean install soonish.
Most annoying older versions of parallels doesn't work with Yosemite so I had to pay to upgrade it .


However my mac isn't my primary machine so I'm not sure if there's something really annoying when using it regularly.

thescouselander

I was using the term "modern" as described in the dictionary:

modern |ˈmɒd(ə)n|
adjective
relating to the present or recent times


Not necessarily better but I do prefer the flatter structure of the newer user interfaces.

Handsome90

prowla wrote: »

I just ran Word 2011 on mine and it starts fine.

Every time I click on Word, it crashes and I get a window stating "To open Microsoft Word you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime. Click more info to visit legacy Java SE 6 download website." I don't remember installing this Java software before.

prowla

Handsome90 wrote: »

Every time I click on Word, it crashes and I get a window stating "To open Microsoft Word you need to install the legacy Java SE 6 runtime. Click more info to visit legacy Java SE 6 download website." I don't remember installing this Java software before.

Hmm - maybe you've got an option or plugin in play. I don't know that Word requires Java. I don't think I have Java on my Mac at all.