speed cameras no longer need the dashed lines on the road

Bantex_2

thescouselander wrote: »

Easier said than done when there are arbitrary speed limit changes every 50 metres.

If you are incapable of knowing what the limit is at any particular time, maybe you shouldn't be driving?

Iceweasel

One of the inconveniences of 'Safety' cameras is the people who will insist on braking hard just before them.

The A90 Aberdeen to Dundee 70mph limit dual carriageway is a good example. But I'm sure it's similar elsewhere.

There are many cameras along this route and the regular travellers are unlikely to be caught out by any of them.

I can be driving along at a steady 70mph and have a steady stream of reps in Audis, 'white-van' men, etc etc going past me at speeds well in excess of 70 - some could be doing 90 even. They tend to stay in lane 2 and often run in convoy formation hardly ever returning to lane 1 even if there is a long clear stretch.

However when they approach a camera location they brake
hard down to around 60 to 65mph and swing left into any gap in lane 1 where those who are driving at 70 have to slow down for them.

If they only slowed to 70 it would not be a problem.

It's pitiful to watch - but not dangerous (for me) any more as I have grown to expect this childish behaviour.

I can understand someone wanting to avoid such a road, but in the case of the A90 there is no real alternative.

roddydogs

Even more strange are the people who slow down/Brake for speed cameras,
WHEN THEIR FACING THE OPPOSITE WAY.!!

bod1467

I've driven that road a few times myself, and seen the exact same behaviour. Pointless getting aggravated about it ... f*cktards will be f*cktards.

I just set my cruise control to 75 (which is a real 70) and happily cruise along at that speed (except for the odd place where they have a 50 limit). When the f*cktards come past me then brake and swerve into lane 1 (why bother changing lane?) I often simply go into lane 2 and overtake them.

Strider590

Let me just point out, I have no problem with speed cameras as a concept, but I DO have a problem with how they are used.
Put one in every 30 zone for all I care and put them outside every school.

But STOP putting them on roads where there is no problem caused by speeding and STOP messing with said roads to deliberately confuse drivers into breaking the limit.

IMO, drivers who drive about in autopilot, doing 40mph on EVERY road, clearly not paying proper attention, are a MUCH greater risk than someone focused on the road and their driving, doing 80mph in a 70 limit.

londonTiger

I speed as and when I need to, I have never been caught - that is because I am extra vigilent and aware of my surroundings when I speed so I can spot the traffic. I have been driving for 3 years.

Anyone who says they don't speed are either weekend drivers or drive <20 miles a week. If you have to drive daily you will speed. Notably on the dual carriage near my home which diverts traffic away from centre of London the speed limit is 40. but EVERYONE, I mean EVERYONE is speeding, even the inside lane drivers are doing 50+ because everyone is leaving the city to go home.

The dashed lines are easy to spot and everyone is aware there is a speed camera so everyone slows down for them. The danger with having speed cameras without them is that some people will spot the speed trap and others won't. So what will happen is someone is going to brake harsely to drop from 60 to 40 to avoid a speed trap and the vehicle behind is not going to spot it and possibly drive into the back of the car in front.

System

I have been driving for 3 years.

Loads of experience then

neilmcl

londonTiger wrote: »

I speed as and when I need to

Oh dear. Nobody "needs" to speed, it's simply a personal choice that you and all of us make.

londonTiger wrote: »

The dashed lines are easy to spot and everyone is aware there is a speed camera so everyone slows down for them. The danger with having speed cameras without them is that some people will spot the speed trap and others won't. So what will happen is someone is going to brake harsely to drop from 60 to 40 to avoid a speed trap and the vehicle behind is not going to spot it and possibly drive into the back of the car in front.

No different to when drivers leave it to the last moment to slow down when they see an obvious yellow box on the side of the road.

jimjames

londonTiger wrote: »

Anyone who says they don't speed are either weekend drivers or drive <20 miles a week. If you have to drive daily you will speed.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

I drive considerably more than that per day (not week) and do not feel the need to speed.

Mix of roads, 30,40, 50 and 70 limits. Least likely roads to be speeding are the 40 and 70 ones on my journey.

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

Whether lines are required depends on the technology of the camera. Modern digital cameras are a different beast to the old film cameras.

They can't just decide they don't want lines, it is down to the type approval for the device. Essentially, type approval means that they are accepted to be accurate in the courts and you'd have to come up with something pretty good to wrinkle out of it.

LT is being a bit silly with his sweeping generalisations. Lots of people have worked out that there is never a need to speed - set off earlier - and that even on long journeys there isn't much difference. He may be surprised to discover that advanced driving courses have speeding as an instant fail regardless of the excellence of the driving.

5 years ago I was a habitual speeder. now I am smugly reformed and do not speed, I get my joy from knowing that people like LT are quietly fuming as I breeze along at the appropriate speed for the road or the limit, whichever is the lower.