Mum's dog bit my LO

pink_princess

Nicki wrote: »

Timely article in today's mail online for those who scoff at the idea that dogs ever "terrorise" innocent people and think to say this can happen is being a drama queen

Man gets arm ‘ripped off’ by his two American bulldogs http://dailym.ai/1ud1JD1

Fireworks went off on the estate just before one of the dogs turned on him and then the other one joined in

Nicki

No I have clearly said that a dog with aggression issues which cannot be socialised should be euthanised. I have not ever said that in all cases a dog who bites should be destroyed the first time it happens though there are circumstances where that should happen. I am talking about dogs who are known to be "cross" not softies who maybe snap as a one off when ill or injured (but a stepped on tail or paw is not injured).

A dog which repeatedly attacks children or others (as here) if it cannot be trained and socialised should be PTS in my opinion. As should any animal causing life changing injuries to anyone even if this is the first time it happens.

A dog with a history of cruelty who responds to training and doesn't bite again is fine.

Nicki

pink_princess wrote: »

Fireworks went off on the estate just before one of the dogs turned on him and then the other one joined in

Well that makes it fine then! I am sure the chap doesn't mind being permanently disabled now he knows why the dogs had to be dragged off him by several people armed with golf clubs for their own protection.

Person_one

Nicki wrote: »

No I have clearly said that a dog with aggression issues which cannot be socialised should be euthanised. I have not ever said that in all cases a dog who bites should be destroyed the first time it happens though there are circumstances where that should happen. I am talking about dogs who are known to be "cross" not softies who maybe snap as a one off when ill or injured (but a stepped on tail or paw is not injured).

A dog which repeatedly attacks children or others (as here) if it cannot be trained and socialised should be PTS in my opinion. As should any animal causing life changing injuries to anyone even if this is the first time it happens.

A dog with a history of cruelty who responds to training and doesn't bite again is fine.

Well, that is pretty much what happens now.

Nicki

Then we are agreed person one. The OP's mothers dog who has bitten three times needs to be PTS if the mother isn't prepared to try some training or if the training doesn't help. Glad you got there in the end. Hope another child wasn't bitten by this dog in the meantime!

Nicki

If bites could easily be prevented the dog would not have successfully bitten 3 children, when these precautions were supposed already to be in force! Humans are fallible, the door doesn't close properly and is wedged with cardboard and the dog throws itself against it to try to break through, and no one knows if it is muzzled when it is walked. So no, the problem is certainly not solved to any rational or responsible person's satisfaction.

ETA responding to a post which has since been deleted.

MrsAtobe

Person_one wrote: »

The adults in your family failed in their duties both to you and to the dog. I grew up with dogs all around and it was nothing but wholly positive for me, which is the case for loads of children and families.

I didn't grow up around dogs, much to my sorrow, and have been bitten three times. Each of these has been entirely my fault, I know better now.

1. Don't try to cuddle a dog when it's asleep,when you don't know it that well, and it isn't used to it.
2. Don't mess around with a dog when it's waiting for its food when you don't know it that well.
3. Don't try to separate fighting dogs by trying to grab their collars, and miss!

Only the last one happened recently, the first two happened when I *should* have been under 'adult' supervision...

yorkshire_terrier_owner

Nicki wrote: »

If the person being bitten has done nothing to trigger the behaviour it doesn't matter in the slightest if there was another cause. The dog is still dangerous and should be destroyed! Can you genuinely not see that any other position is prioritising the dogs interests over the human's?

There are many cases where a dog bites for no apparent cause (but I would argue there is ALWAYS a cause) where you would not go straight to destruction without investigation first.

And in my house, my dogs are prioritised over humans!

Nobody wants to see anyone bitten by a dog, but I really do wish we humans would take more responsibility for the effect our behaviour has on a dogs behaviour.

yorkshire_terrier_owner

Nicki wrote: »

No I have clearly said that a dog with aggression issues which cannot be socialised should be euthanised. I have not ever said that in all cases a dog who bites should be destroyed the first time it happens though there are circumstances where that should happen. I am talking about dogs who are known to be "cross" not softies who maybe snap as a one off when ill or injured (but a stepped on tail or paw is not injured).

A dog which repeatedly attacks children or others (as here) if it cannot be trained and socialised should be PTS in my opinion. As should any animal causing life changing injuries to anyone even if this is the first time it happens.

A dog with a history of cruelty who responds to training and doesn't bite again is fine.

If someone steps on a dog and causes it pain, their reaction is to protect themselves. A dog cannot rationalise "I am ill so it's ok to bite but someone stepped on my tail so it's not ok to bite". Pain is pain to them, however it is caused.

theoretica

The OP hasn't said but I think it likely that the first two bites were as hard as this third, because surely, surely, granny and sister would have taken enough precautions that the second and third bites didn't happen and mentioned the incident.