Debt Enforcement & Action Ltd Final Reminder Before Court Action Letter

cjsnorky

Received the same last week!

It looks cheap (nasty paper - almost like done on a home printer!) … but would be good to know if this really can amount to anything - or if this is likely to result in a court claim against us!

Ours relates to parking in Jan 2012 - we thought they had fine away!

bobuilt

Screech26 wrote: »

The company is calling itself Debt Enforcement & Action Limited - Registered Office: 124 Baker Street, London, W1U 6TY.


It was for a PCN in a Co-Op car park in Southampton controlled by Civil Enforcement. Civil Enforcement apparently passed / sold the debt on to them


The letter is headed
Final Reminder Before Court Action


and it has attached draft Particulars of Claim.

They are threatening him with:
"A Warrant of Execution
Appoint a Court Bailiff to attend your property
Seize your vehicle / goods
Apply for an Attachment of Earnings Order (which they have written in BOLD)
Apply for a Third Party Debt Order (again in BOLD)


They have also written in BOLD
"As this matter remains unresolved costs are simply going to escalate. However, we appreciate, the level of your debt and are therefore prepared to accept, without prejudice, £130.00 as full and final settlement subject to such payment being made by no later than 22/09/14"

The amount of the debt they say is actually due is £170.00 but they will accept £130.00.


The description of the claim on the draft particulars is for
"Damages arising from a breach of contract"


If this was before the change in law don't they have to prove who was driving to know who the contract was between?

Screech26 I have today received an absolutely identical letter for an incident @ Whitby Coop in early 2013, where I overstayed by less than 10 minutes in the one hour free parking area. The values and threats and values are all identical as is the threat of Northampton Court. I have ignored everything so far based on previous advice but am now getting a little twitchy.

paulosbrumbos

ive made mind up anyway, they not getting a single penny off me. simples.

they are clowns

Umkomaas

Don't be confused with Northampton County Court guys. This is not where any proceedings would take place - it's highly unlikely that any will take place in any case, but we will see how things unfold over the coming weeks.

Northampton CC is the national bulk distribution centre for the issuing of court papers - legitimate ones; all you've received is a mock-up of court papers. Think of them as the same as the £1,000,000 cheque made out in your name which suddenly comes through the post from Readers Digest - and you're only a few simple steps from receiving that cheque (yeah, right!).

bobuilt

Marktheshark wrote: »

Send the form to : Crowncopyright@noms.gsi.gov.uk
With a complaint that you believe them to be using crown copyright material without the correct NOMS licence.
As the licence costs £3100 per year, they take enforcement very seriously usually.
Crown copyright documents can only be used for the intended purpose and can only be copied with the correct licence.
If they are using them without licence to attempt to extract what is a fictitious alleged debt, then I think you may find they will be most interested.
Anyone with similar, please forward your complaint as well.

Just sent mine thanks for the advice.

paulosbrumbos

mines going tomorrow. It looks absolutely so mickey mouse. blurred photo copy, cheap nasty......Ive just tried to call them to wind them up a little. Could not speak to anyone

Id rather give the £170 to a homeless person.

bod1467

Never ever EVER call a PPC or debt collector - EVER. If you engage them in conversation you may unwittingly drop yourself in it.

paulosbrumbos

thanks for that, couldnt speak to anyone anyway.

wont call them again, i'll just let them waste cheap paper and crappy photocopier.

bobuilt

Marktheshark wrote: »

Send the form to : Crowncopyright@noms.gsi.gov.uk
With a complaint that you believe them to be using crown copyright material without the correct NOMS licence.
As the licence costs £3100 per year, they take enforcement very seriously usually.
Crown copyright documents can only be used for the intended purpose and can only be copied with the correct licence.
If they are using them without licence to attempt to extract what is a fictitious alleged debt, then I think you may find they will be most interested.
Anyone with similar, please forward your complaint as well.

I have tried this email address from a couple of accounts and both have bounced as undelivered. In searching for an alternative email address I came across the original N1 form here
hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/n001-eng.pdf and noticed the © is missing from the bottom of the Debt Enforcement version.
I have found this 3w.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/forms and have resent the email to jane.wright@justice.gsi.gov.uk. Sorry I can't use full web address as I am a newbie and the system wont let me use full links.

[Deleted User]

One of these letters came through the post this morning. It had the intended effect of starting a little panic. After reading a ton of threads on MSE and the internet and I'm feeling a lot better but the situation is still confusing.

I have read the newbie threads about appealing the charge but I'm assuming that because the 'debt' was reassigned from CEL, this is no longer an option (or necessary)?

The 'Final Reminder before court action' letter is, to be kid, an unprofessional looking piece of work. A photocopy that has been over typed with my details. It's obviously part of a massive mailshot. I doubt that they would have the resources to pursue all the claims they have sent out.

The letter was dated Monday 15th, posted Thursday 18th and has given me until Monday to pay up! Is this reasonable? It's certainly not feasible.

I just think it's one of those 'stab in the dark' letters and my instinct (after calming down) is to ignore it just like any other junk mail that has my name on it. What do you think?


PS. If it has any bearing, the original charge was for October 2013.