Ex wife leaving town and leaving kids, but stalling

matilda.cs
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edited 17 September 2014 at 1:07AM in MoneySaving dads
Hi all,

I'm a father of 2 children from a previous relationship which didn't work. Nothing majorly went wrong, we just got together when we were 15 and 10 years later matured into people looking for different things.
We've both supported our children in the time we've been separated, we've had different ideas on parenting, but we've tried to get on.
Anyway, she wants to move away (100ish miles) and plans to leave the kids here with me and my partner.
This is perfect for us as we love them to bits and wouldn't let her take them away.
She says she'll be moving as soon as her partner gets a visa and is able to live and work in uk.
To us, it sounds like she is stalling on making a decision, and when we question it, she says "we're waiting on government to grant visas etc"
I'm wondering if anyone can give advice on how we can speed up the time it takes for my children to come and live with us permanently?
We currently have a week with the kids and a week without, so it's shared custody.
I feel like I'm getting my hopes up about them living here full time, but she will declare that she wants to stay...
I'm looking for a way to say " look, they come and live me from 01/10/2014 whether you go or not.
Obviously we'd still allow plenty of visiting, but the kids need stability, and she cannot currently off that...
I don't want to scare her aware and decide she doesn't wanna go but in the same breath, I need to do something that'll make her realise that she can't keep everyone hanging like this.
It breaks my heart every time she delays things...I just want my kids :/
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  • I feel your frustration, but you can't force your ex to hurry up with her decision based on your wants, I'm afraid.

    The only way you could move things along is to instruct a solicitor, but this could sour your relationship with your ex, it will cost a LOT and I don't think a judge would hand over full custody based on what you have told us.

    For the moment, ust concentrate on building your relationship with your kids and supporting their Mother, it will make things a lot easier for all involved, in the long run.
  • I think you just need to be patient. These things can turn so quickly into horrible situations of arguments that wont make things easier. So I wouldn't give her a deadline.

    I understand this is hard as your so excited about having the kids full time but keep communication flowing as much as possible. Talk about your worries about the delays and how it could be impacting on the children but please don't make any demands!
  • quidsy
    quidsy Posts: 2,181 Forumite
    Where is her new bloke from as for many countries the visa process is VERY slow & expensive so she may not be able to provide you with a solid date until his visa has been issued.

    I would just hold tight with the current arrangement, if he doesn't get his visa she wont be moving anyway presumably? And then the original week on week off arrangement will stay in place.
    I don't respond to stupid so that's why I am ignoring you.

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  • mgdavid
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    Be patient; there's a hint that it's all about 'what you want' which is not what it should be about.
    What do the children want? Their mum will always be their mum, and I'm sure that in one way or another they will miss her so let them enjoy the time they do have with her, before she moves away.
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
  • TBagpuss
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    The only way you could spped it up would be to ask her to agree to the children moving to live full time with you now, without waiting for her move, but there is no reason why she would agree to thet - the childnre are in a settled routine now so it is not as though there would be any benefit to them in moving them early.

    It would of couse be open to you tp apply to court to change the arrangemetns but a court would be very unlikely to agree to change the arrangem,ents and significantly reduce their time with their mum when they have a stable routine already, and while she is still local.

    As others have said, pushing it is likely to sour relationships between you and could easily end up with a situation where she decided she wanted the children to move with her, and you wind up having a big struggle about where they ultimately live.

    There could be all sorts of problems both with her partner's visa and her planned move, so I would not count on anything changing until you get to a point where she actually tells you that they have signed a lease / accepted a job / got the visa
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • Spendless
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    quidsy wrote: »
    Where is her new bloke from as for many countries the visa process is VERY slow & expensive so she may not be able to provide you with a solid date until his visa has been issued.

    I would just hold tight with the current arrangement, if he doesn't get his visa she wont be moving anyway presumably? And then the original week on week off arrangement will stay in place.
    ^^^ This hugely relevant.

    I work with someone whose husband lives in another country, she is also 'waiting for his visa' and 2 years and several rejections later, he is still not here. My workmate doesn't actually earn enough to get him here. She needs to be earning £18,600 pa for her non EU spouse to come here. Is this perhaps relevant in your ex's case.
  • He is from usa, and now has his visa. He will be working and living in UK within a few weeks.
    It appears, however, that she is now not moving with him. Some rubbish about her parents moving house and not being well enough to do it without her help.
    She is full of crap.

    The boys want to live with us - that's one of the frustrating things :(
  • mgdavid
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    How old are the children? Have you looked at the criteria around applying for full custody? ISTR that once children are a certain age (12?) then what they say is taken much more notice of, to the point that it can easily tip the balance in your favour. It can be highly contentious though as technically it means the ex would be due to pay you maintenance...
    The questions that get the best answers are the questions that give most detail....
  • tinkerbell28
    tinkerbell28 Posts: 2,720 Forumite
    matilda.cs wrote: »
    He is from usa, and now has his visa. He will be working and living in UK within a few weeks.
    It appears, however, that she is now not moving with him. Some rubbish about her parents moving house and not being well enough to do it without her help.
    She is full of crap.

    The boys want to live with us - that's one of the frustrating things :(

    You sound charming. This is your boy's mother you talk about. Maybe she can't bare to leave her children full time and has cold feet ever thought of that?

    All I see is what you want really. Courts are really reluctant to offer anything but joint custody nowadays unless there is a real child welfare issues. Even if the child is older.

    So you can go to court and you'll need deep pockets.
  • You sound charming. This is your boy's mother you talk about. Maybe she can't bare to leave her children full time and has cold feet ever thought of that?

    All I see is what you want really. Courts are really reluctant to offer anything but joint custody nowadays unless there is a real child welfare issues. Even if the child is older.

    So you can go to court and you'll need deep pockets.
    touched a nerve?
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
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