bought a 'pre ordered' iPhone 6 on eBay

MrJester

RMS2 wrote: »

That's not what he said.


What was said is, there is a cost and that cost is borne out by somebody, and in the end it is passed down the pipeline to the customer.

Well sure if you want to be all philosophical about it. eBay are ripping off geezers any which way you want to look at it. Benefit or get as much out of them/the service as you can. So in this case, the OP could either be getting a bargain, or they will get their money back.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head wrote: »

There we go, it's apparently someone else's responsibility, no personal responsibility at all not to hand over £500 when you are, to quote the OP "not hopeful at all" you'll get anything in return.

Yes, a giant corporations responsibility to provide adequate sellers on an open marketplace. They take the risk allowing any old person to sell, it's not the buyer to take on that risk. If eBay wish to let any tom !!!!!! and harry sell just by signing up then why should that at all be the buyer's fault if it turns out to be a scam?

The OP is holding their breath because in some ways it seems too good to be true, but they believed it enough to pay for it.

ballisticbrian

The guy is using you as a payday loan. He may or may not intend to send you a phone in October but in the mean time is saving himself a big wodge of cash by using yours.


Just think if you could do that on a £500 phone and 2000 people, you would have £1 million to stick in a bank account with a good interest rate until October.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

JoeJester wrote: »

Well sure if you want to be all philosophical about it. eBay are ripping off geezers any which way you want to look at it. Benefit or get as much out of them/the service as you can. So in this case, the OP could either be getting a bargain, or they will get their money back.



Yes, a giant corporations responsibility to provide adequate sellers on an open marketplace. They take the risk allowing any old person to sell, it's not the buyer to take on that risk. If eBay wish to let any tom !!!!!! and harry sell just by signing up then why should that at all be the buyer's fault if it turns out to be a scam?

The OP is holding their breath because in some ways it seems too good to be true, but they believed it enough to pay for it.

Of course eBay should ensure such doesn't take place, but they don't so you take some personal responsibility yourself.

If we disagree on the line where personal responsibility stands that's fine, I'm merely stating my opinion and as someone who sees less sales on eBay than other outlets, purely due to the reputation of the site and the general perception of the product supplied via eBay I'd rather buyers didn't encourage other people to run such scams.

It's not about getting as much out of eBay as possible, it's about the normal people working hard to earn a living who suffer because of the damage to the site's reputation, mainly eBay's fault but again I feel the buyer has some responsibility as well.

The buyer getting their money back does not mean the seller can't filter out the £500 and keep it.

shaun_from_Africa

JoeJester wrote: »

You don't pay to get your money back.

If the OP receives anything other than the iphone 6 they were expecting then they will have to pay to return this back to the seller before they receive their refund and if for example they get an iphone 5, the cost to send this back with adequate cover for loss or damage will be around the £7 mark if they use Royal mail.

tyllwyd

It's a lot of money to risk on something you think might well be a scam.


Does everything else about the seller look legitimate - does he have feedback over a range of time, does he look like the kind of seller that might sell a phone as a one-off? Did your money go through straightaway from PayPal or have they held onto it?

soolin

ballisticbrian wrote: »

The guy is using you as a payday loan. He may or may not intend to send you a phone in October but in the mean time is saving himself a big wodge of cash by using yours.


Just think if you could do that on a £500 phone and 2000 people, you would have £1 million to stick in a bank account with a good interest rate until October.

I suspect you are right, rather than this being an out and out scam it could well be the payday loan scenario that apparently is becoming increasingly more common. I even saw someone explain how to do it on a Facebook group recently.

Obviously, it is impossibly to know the real truth of it all, but I am not necessarily a risk taker and if this really is cheap for the new iPhone I don't think I would have gambled on it. Whilst it is rare, I would also be concerned at the brick in the post , or the blacklisted phone in 3 months time scenario.

notanewuser

appleblossom wrote: »

It was on the news last night that even though it is officially released on Friday, Apple have said that nobody will receive it until at least October - how is he confident he will have his on Friday?

soolin wrote: »

Google return several hundred results about the iPhone being delayed

Here's one

http://adage.com/article/digital/apple-iphone-6-sells-shipping-delayed-3-4-weeks/294946/

Ah, it's only the plus that's delayed.

WelshPaul

First of all you would thing after last years supply and demand this year would of gone smoother! Hmmm... :T

Second of all you have been scammed!

I'm an apple iPhone user but hell will freeze over before I ever pay £900+ for a mobile phone.

MrJester

I sold a PS4 pre-order I had. Well, actually what I sold was the PS4, so the buyer paid me and then my Amazon pre-order for the PS4 charged me and sent it out, but before it was posted out I just changed to the customers address. So they got it on release day.

With the profit it went to my own PS4, went to a midnight release of PS4 launch and played it that night!

So people DO do it, selling preorders on, but for cheaper than the RRP at launch, I do doubt.

appleblossom

soolin wrote: »

Google return several hundred results about the iPhone being delayed

Here's one

http://adage.com/article/digital/apple-iphone-6-sells-shipping-delayed-3-4-weeks/294946/

Thanks Soolin....I heard it on the news on the radio and don't know what station hubby has it on in the garage so couldn't have answered it myself but it was backed up with the next poster anyway and yourself. X