Do you actually use your Microwave??

KittyKate

1jacks64 wrote: »

KittyKate - can you please explain to me what an OS lifestyle is, as mentioned in your original post.

Our microwave has been broken for 2 weeks and we miss it :mad: . We use ours all the time.

OS lifestyle - making everything from scratch, primarily using the oven/hob! I tend to make exactly enough for two, and if there is any leftover I stick it in a tupperware and eat it at work (using, yes, the work microwave!!). I certainly wouldn't miss mine if it popped, but each to their own, hence my OP

This thread is mammoth! I can't believe I made the email since I wrote it, I have used the microwave once - to heat up my wheat bag for a tummy ache!

It does seem to have gone a bit off course though - can I ask anyone who has a seperate point to make, opens a seperate thread? (You are welcome to link to it from here!)

penny.wright

I have asked my MP whether Government has a line on how safe microwaves are, and if not, are they funding research? - I will post reply if I get one.

• extra space in kitchen is wonderful
• try to use hob or grill instead of microwave
• Slow cooker can be used for defrosting - put on low for a few minutes and then turn off. Actually, using microwave to defrost is rather inefficient cos it used same power for defrost as on 'full'
• Using saucepan to reheat my frozen soup is easier and just as quick
• Steaming veggies is surprisingly quick - choose big enough pan
• If you use metal tray for grilling food, the heat from bottom seems to cook food twice as fast - drain off fat to stop it burning, or add a bit of water
• be careful not to burn porridge!

SkintSazzie

I use mine every day. We all seem to come in at different times, there only ever seems to be me and youngest at home so I cook the meal and it gets re-heated depending on who isn't home at feeding time.

Also I actually use mine as a bread bin - it is sealed and airtight so keeps bread and cake fresher for longer. The only draw back is when you want to use the microwave for cooking or reheating as you have to remove the bread.

jonthedog

But what does OS actually stand for? Is it just me who can't work it out?

overlykeensaver

OS stands for Old Style. Which I think is the wrong term for it because it sounds old fashioned. I don't think doing your own baking and cooking meals from scratch is old fashioned but tasty and common sense!

seraphina

s.truth wrote: »

Kitty the physicist knows. Thanks jonthedog for the basic lesson. I was trying to keep it simple by saying that the heat we feel is convection. Most of the heat we feel when we have been out in the sun is convection from the activity on the outer layers of skin and flesh. People who become very hot from being in the sun soon cool down when out of it, the heat source being removed, any damage that has been caused may not go away.

The natural vibration or resonance of water being increased is not what causes the heat to generate in microwave cooking. It is often confused with the process which does cause the heat to generate, that being the following

Here is how microwaves cook food: All electromagnetic waves change from positive to negative with each cycle of the wave. Alternating current simply makes these cycles happen faster. Water molecules have a positive and a negative end. Because of this, when exposed to microwave energy, which is changing from positive to negative, the water molecules in there attempt to naturally line up with the current change their polarity constantly. Microwaves, generated by the alternating current in an oven, cause the water molecules in the food to change polarity billions of times per second. This results in an enormous amount of friction among these molecules, thus causing the food to get hot. It also destroys many molecules causing the poisonous soup of unnatural chemicals which the human body cannot deal with.
An experiment has been undertaken which leaves no doubt about the harmful changes that occur when a microwave radiation oven is used to heat food. It is one that can be undertaken in your kitchen for you to see for yourself. I cannot say what it is until about the third week of August when the details are being released.


It is far easier to do your homework with regard to whatever you use or eat and the point about other things like food additives, processes and yes, unfermented soya being harmful are valid.
The point about the blood is that if all heating processes are the same why are poisons found only in the batches heated in microwave radiation ovens. It is nothing to do with clotting or viscosity, it is detectable poisons.

My point is that I know about this and I want to pass it on.

It is is that many people today want to do what they like with and to their bodies without giving it thought. Then when things go wrong they expect other people (usually the NHS) to put it right. You are a miracle of existence, I would say you have a duty to yourself to appreciate that fact, you may think differently.

What utter, utter rubbish - this kind of fake science is an absolute disgrace to our education system and to the people who peddle it.

Microwaves cook food by causing water molecules to vibrate faster. It seems that you have attempted (badly) to copy Wikipedia's rather basic and somewhat incorrect description about how microwave ovens work. The microwaves used in food ovens cannot generally break down compounds by themselves - although the heat that they generate might do so. However this would be true of any cooking heat source! The ovens use a Faraday cage to make sure that microwaves remain contained within the oven.

And for the record, I did my PhD with Cancer Research UK and am now a research scientist working with tumour suppressor proteins and I have no qualms at all about using a microwave oven!

shegha

I use mine for baked pots, porridge, melting butter and heating up my wax pot ( for my legs)

beemuzed

I use my microwave every day, sometimes for cooking, sometimes for thawing things from the freezer. Have had one since 1979 - when first one died I decided I could live without it - took less than three weeks to discover just how much I missed it. Not looked back since.

homealone_2

i reheat frozen leftovers, warm milk when ikky stomach, melt butter when baking, warm crossiants, steam puddings, heat beans, reheat takeaways especially when eyes bigger than belly when ordering curry and would be totally lost witout it for heating up wheatbags for my bad back after slipped disc operation failed

s.truth

What utter, utter rubbish - this kind of fake science is an absolute disgrace to our education system and to the people who peddle it.

Microwaves cook food by causing water molecules to vibrate faster. It seems that you have attempted (badly) to copy Wikipedia's rather basic and somewhat incorrect description about how microwave ovens work. The microwaves used in food ovens cannot generally break down compounds by themselves - although the heat that they generate might do so. However this would be true of any cooking heat source! The ovens use a Faraday cage to make sure that microwaves remain contained within the oven.

And for the record, I did my PhD with Cancer Research UK and am now a research scientist working with tumour suppressor proteins and I have no qualms at all about using a microwave oven!


Thank you Seraphina. I am recently new to the internet and knew nothing of Wikipedia until you said.
Perhaps at this time you are where I was 38 years ago. Unfortunately, Narrow Disciplines become too narrow when looking for answers that concern oneself. Perhaps one day you may have a diagnosis, as I have, that may make you look further into changes in energy and vibration.
To believe that no change occurs in the finely balanced and tuned homeostasis of cells when caused to oscillate at two and a half million times a second may comply with your Discipline but I now prefer a broader church and seek rounder conclusions. Research from such as Hertel & Blanc whose experiments show a different outcome are more reliable, see below.
Various others have carried out experiments which have been discredited by the establishment, possibly for the same reason you and your wellmeaning colleagues are looking for ways to manage problems instead of seeking causation factors.
Alienate the environment, then change human genes to suit?
Microwaves may not cause cancer directly but food cooked in them has been proven to put undue strain on the immune system allowing cancerous conditions in some cases to take hold.
I may not agree with you but I will not attempt to discredit what you believe to be true.
I just want people to take responsibility and seek their own opinion.

Dr. Hans Hertel 's Experiment with Microwave cooked food

Clinical research was done by a Swiss scientist, Dr. Hans Hertel, on the effects of microwave processed food on the human body. Dr. Hertel, along with seven other participants, who were on a strict Macrobiotic diet at the Macrobiotic Institute in Kientel, Switzerland, participated in this study. They were all housed in the same hotel environment for 8 weeks, where there was no smoking, no alcohol, and nosex. In intervals of 2-5 days, the volunteers in this study received one of the following food variants on an empty stomach: 1) Raw milk from a biofarm; 2) Same raw milk conventionally cooked; 3) Same raw milk cooked in a Microwave Oven; 4) Pasteurized milk; 5) Raw Organic vegetables; 6) Same vegetables conventionally cooked; 7) Same vegetables frozen and defrosted in a Microwave Oven; 8) Same vegetables cooked in a Microwave Oven.
Blood samples were taken before and after eating. Anytime, that the participants drank the raw milk or ate the raw vegetables, that were cooked in the Microwave Oven, there were very significant changes discovered in their blood samples . These changes included a decrease in ALL hemoglobin levels and the HDL ("good" cholesterol) and LDL ("bad cholesterol) ratio . White blood cells also showed a more distinct short term decrease. These indicators definitely point in a direction away from Health and towards degenerative conditions.