Do you actually use your Microwave??

rosieben

We're all entitled to our opinions and to make our own decisions. That is what I intend to do as far as using my microwave.

I'm giving up on this thread now, the original posters question is being swamped by your insistence s.truth on pushing all this down peoples throats despite that fact that its been made abundantly clear that we arent interested.

[Deleted User]

I was a physicist and I do have a microwave because it was built into the kitchen in our new house. I use it for heating my plates and that is all. I never cook with it

CountryWife_2

Hi AllI would like to say that i am on the same side as s.truth. You can believe it or not, but i believe that the microwave kills any food you cook in it, it has very liitle nutritional value left. S.truth is only trying to encourage you to do your own research and to find out for yourselves, the problem is that the truth is sometimes very hard to find, especially in the healthcare field. I would encourage everybody to be openminded and do your own research. Your health is one of your most important assets.

1jacks64

KittyKate - can you please explain to me what an OS lifestyle is, as mentioned in your original post.

Our microwave has been broken for 2 weeks and we miss it :mad: . We use ours all the time.

jonthedog

s.truth wrote: »

Regarding AC/DC. Radiation from the sun is direct current and heats by convection. Alternating Current Radiation alternates the polarities of the molecules, which are bipoles, billions of times a second and as the molecules alternate their position attempting to line up with the ever moving polarities of the current they bump into each other and cause friction which creates heat. Only AC Radiation heats in that manner and only man-made radiation heats by friction. It isn't the burning that kills as it might with sunburn, it is a different type of damage altogether.

OK, I feel I have to give a basic physics lesson to those who might not know better: sunlight, microwaves, x-rays, radio waves, gamma rays are all waves ('AC') in the electromagnetic spectrum and are essentially the same apart from their wavelength and frequency (the speed being constant...the speed of light). They also all behave as discrete particles of energy (i.e. photons), however, and the shorter the wavelength, the higher the photon energy. Photon energy becomes high enough to become ionizing (i.e. interacting with electrons) at around the wavelength of UV light. Hence UV, x-rays, and gamma rays can all cause cellular damage, mutations and cancer. It is impossible for wavelengths longer than this to cause molecular damage. Microwaves have a far longer wavelength than visible light and are very much non-ionizing. MW of roughly 11cm wavelength happen to have the same frequency as the natural resonance of a water molecule and can cause it to oscillate faster, much like pushing a swing at the right time. There is nothing sinister or damaging about this. Sunlight very much does not heat by convection...it has to pass though a vacuum in which no convection/conduction can possibly occur.

s.truth wrote: »

With regard to heating blood for a blood transfusion. The microwave only warmed up the blood gradually to body temperature. It wasn't heated quickly or overheated. The method of heating changed the nature of the blood and it became poisonous. The lady in question Mrs Norma Levitt died. Her family sued the hospital and expert witnesses were called to give evidence. It was proved that the blood that killed her. Experiments were carried out using the same method to heat the blood and elements of the blood were compared with healthy elements revealing the cause of death.

Microwaving causes very localized heating and therefore very localized denaturing and clotting, whether the blood is heated up gradually or not, as anyone trying to defrost something in the MW would know. I'm sure the blood would have been perfectly good to eat, just not really the sort of thing you would want to inject in your blood stream.

s.truth wrote: »

and the graph of the increase more or less follows the graph of the growth of use of microwave radiation ovens.

People's lifestyle and diets have changed a lot in the last 50 years or so; it's incredibly simplistic and irresponsible to say that just because there is a correlation it is defiantly the case that one leads to the other. For example, growth in the use of unfermented soya protein (used in almost every processed food) in western diets follows the same trend. Who is to say that this isn't carcinogenic? Why the scientists, of course, with proper studies and analysis instead of meaningless hearsay.

s.truth

Kitty the physicist knows. Thanks jonthedog for the basic lesson. I was trying to keep it simple by saying that the heat we feel is convection. Most of the heat we feel when we have been out in the sun is convection from the activity on the outer layers of skin and flesh. People who become very hot from being in the sun soon cool down when out of it, the heat source being removed, any damage that has been caused may not go away.

The natural vibration or resonance of water being increased is not what causes the heat to generate in microwave cooking. It is often confused with the process which does cause the heat to generate, that being the following

Here is how microwaves cook food: All electromagnetic waves change from positive to negative with each cycle of the wave. Alternating current simply makes these cycles happen faster. Water molecules have a positive and a negative end. Because of this, when exposed to microwave energy, which is changing from positive to negative, the water molecules in there attempt to naturally line up with the current change their polarity constantly. Microwaves, generated by the alternating current in an oven, cause the water molecules in the food to change polarity billions of times per second. This results in an enormous amount of friction among these molecules, thus causing the food to get hot. It also destroys many molecules causing the poisonous soup of unnatural chemicals which the human body cannot deal with.
An experiment has been undertaken which leaves no doubt about the harmful changes that occur when a microwave radiation oven is used to heat food. It is one that can be undertaken in your kitchen for you to see for yourself. I cannot say what it is until about the third week of August when the details are being released.


It is far easier to do your homework with regard to whatever you use or eat and the point about other things like food additives, processes and yes, unfermented soya being harmful are valid.
The point about the blood is that if all heating processes are the same why are poisons found only in the batches heated in microwave radiation ovens. It is nothing to do with clotting or viscosity, it is detectable poisons.

My point is that I know about this and I want to pass it on.

It is is that many people today want to do what they like with and to their bodies without giving it thought. Then when things go wrong they expect other people (usually the NHS) to put it right. You are a miracle of existence, I would say you have a duty to yourself to appreciate that fact, you may think differently.

churchmouse_3

I have also used mine for proving dough from the bread machine as given in the recipe book, i dont have any of those cosy warm places like agas etc to give it umph and it works well. I must admit i an awful at making custard in it , it always goes lumpy so i revert to the hob.
I would never bother sterelising cloths in there, we need to build up healthy immune systems, i do not live in a filthy house but i dont drown every surface in anti bacterial sprays. We have livestock, dogs etc and exposed to all forms of so called deadly microbes, even our water is from the bore hole and drunk without boiling first, and guess what we dont get flu, colds. upset stomachs, or anything else threatened to exist in the soil, air.:eek:
Like someone else mentioned this is OS living........

jago25_98

Use it for Vegetables - quicker, easier and healthier.

Add a little water for carrots.

tooties

if i am being truly honest my microwave just gets used to house the junk on top of it.

tooties

blackberry-rum

sorry late into this thread - I got rid of my full sized stove some 15 yrs ago and ONLY use microwave (well, I have a slow cooker and a little tabletop grill too for if I fancy a steak or omelet). Vegetables, home made soup, stew with dumplings, curries, rice, pasta with various home made sauces, full breakfasts as well as porridge or heating milk for allbran and coffee, poached/"fried" eggs - I even make muffins for work using a regular muffin "mix" from the shop and reducing the cooking time. I hate housework so if I can cook a whole meal in one dish and then eat from it, and just have to wipe around the microwave interior once a week, that's a real bonus for me! I'm single. For more than one it is a bit of a faff to cook a whole microwave meal from scratch unless you are just doing a stew. Sorry if I've repeated something that's gone before,only read first and last page of posts