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should employer identify colleague who reported me for looking tired

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  • tir21
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    edited 15 September 2014 at 12:21PM
    PenguinJim wrote: »
    You are referencing (and later linking to) research that examines the effects of frequently changing your routine, e.g. one week of night shifts, one week of day shifts. Irregular shifts.

    Moving from a 9-5 to a 10-6 job has a period of adjustment, too. And naturally, it's a more difficult transition for a larger adjustment. But once your body has its new rhythm, there should be no problem.

    Otherwise people wouldn't be able to emigrate from the UK to Australia without serious health implications, for example! :p Like jet lag, it just takes a bit of time.

    For what it's worth, this isn't the first time I've seen this mistake made.

    I think you may be wrong in what you say here. The research ive seen suggests although health implications are worse for those on rotating shifts they are still apparent for those on regular shift patterns.

    The problem with your analogy of moving to australia is that if we did move there the sun will not be in the same position in the sky at the same time as it would be if we had stayed here.

    So living here and working the same shifts as a day worker in australia cannot be compared because it is ignoring the effect daylight has on the brain.
  • tir21
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    edited 15 September 2014 at 12:22PM
    Why do you keep getting into all these "incidents" at work?

    The incidents are beyond my control and not of my doing. Someone asked if I was gay which I think was an inappropriate question. Some people think it was an overreaction to take offence but many people on here agreed with me.

    The same person said they don't know why they pay me when I hadnt really done anything wrong. I again considered that inappropriate

    Another incident involved someone not willing to follow procedure they were supposed to follow which could have had repercussions for me

    Is there anything ive mentioned on here that you think I should have been disciplined for?
    Would you consider that you're a difficult employee?

    No. In 22 years of employment I've had no verbal or written warnings
  • k3lvc
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    tir21 wrote: »
    In 22 years of employment I've had no verbal or written warnings

    Maybe not but I bet your personnel file makes for some interesting reading

    Perhaps you have a spineless boss and others are trying to speed up your inevitable departure or maybe you just have a complete lack of self-awareness. Whichever it is despite your 'no' to looking for another job I'd be reconsidering before someone does it for you
  • tir21
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    k3lvc wrote: »
    Maybe not but I bet your personnel file makes for some interesting reading

    I doubt it. None of the issues I've raised on here will be in my personnel file
    Perhaps you have a spineless boss and others are trying to speed up your inevitable departure or maybe you just have a complete lack of self-awareness. Whichever it is despite your 'no' to looking for another job I'd be reconsidering before someone does it for you

    No. The unfair dismissal money would come in useful
  • tir21 wrote: »
    Is there anything ive mentioned on here that you think I should have been disciplined for?

    Nowhere have you stated you've been disciplined. As far as I can gather you've been reported - not even close to being the same thing.

    I've only skimmed through the multiple other threads you've created, but from this one alone I would say you're "difficult".

    Success at work is about more than avoiding disciplinary action!
  • tir21
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    edited 15 September 2014 at 12:55PM
    Another not new user
    Research can prove anything on either side of an equation.

    Have you seen any research that shift work does not have any health implications
  • tir21
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    Nowhere have you stated you've been disciplined. As far as I can gather you've been reported - not even close to being the same thing.

    I've only skimmed through the multiple other threads you've created, but from this one alone I would say you're "difficult".

    Im bound to asked you why you think being unhappy about being interrogated about my sexuality makes me difficult. Or why being concerned that someone is not following procudere that I could have difficulty over makes me difficult or why a colleage querying why they pay me is difficult.
    Success at work is about more than avoiding disciplinary action!

    Im not too bothered with success. Im happy enough getting paid
  • tir21 wrote: »
    I think you may be wrong in what you say here. The research ive seen suggests although health implications are worse for those on rotating shifts they are still apparent for those on regular shift patterns.

    And yet millions of people manage (myself and others who have commented on this thread included) perfectly well.

    I have worked every shift pattern imaginable in the last 26 years with no discernible negative effects.

    Maybe shift work just doesn't suit you?
  • You've already had you're answer multiple times in the last 3 pages... why are you intent on dragging this out? you've had your moan for this week or month or whatever it is you seem to be doing... just bloody move on for gods sake..
  • tir21
    tir21 Posts: 1,073 Forumite
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    And yet millions of people manage (myself and others who have commented on this thread included) perfectly well.

    I manage perfectly well with shift work but there maybe occasions I look a bit tired
    I have worked every shift pattern imaginable in the last 26 years with no discernible negative effects.

    Thats good news but does nothing to invalidate the research that seems to indicate there are health risks associated with shift work
    Maybe shift work just doesn't suit you?

    Well if I will the lottery I will definately resign :)
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